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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On a very hot day, and with no watermelon in sight, 30 Jul 1998 > 00:21:37 GMT, "Nancy  E.Holmes or R. Nelson Ruffin" >Well I looked in Dejanews (as I wondered what you were talking about) and >from the topics you chose to participate in – well maybe if you had been as >careful in the dog groups as the antique groups in your topic choices you >would not have made a target of yourself for the less pleasant among us. >Hint – seems as if the thread has Dogman in it the language will get crude >(not that its him always that does it) and rude. >Nancy > To Nancy: > OIC…this is all now *my* fault, eh? > And just when I thought we were making some progress, Nancy. > :>(

Go back and reread first what I actually wrote and then the most recent threads you have participated in – that this guy also did – and then tell me that no uncouth or unkind language was used in them by *anyone*.  In fact in many of the long threads you participate in (I rate you as a ‘barometer’ for these as it happens and just ignore them mostly) the stomping/flaming effect seems to come into play quite a bit. And no its not always you who uses the language (just as I stated the first time) but I *do* think you have an affinity for those kinds of threads and don’t do a lot to extinguish flames <g> when they flicker or even if a spark flies nearby. And yes I have been guilty of the same upon occasion <g> but I *try* to be polite at it when I do though I’ve been known to slip badly on a poor day. As for progress – well on my part I’ve been mostly skipping those long threads where your login is prominent and its helped my tolerance level quite a bit <g>. Nancy

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On a very hot day, and with no watermelon in sight, 30 Jul 1998 01:36:26 GMT, "Nancy  E.Holmes or R. Nelson Ruffin" [...] > To Nancy: > OIC…this is all now *my* fault, eh? > And just when I thought we were making some progress, Nancy. > :>( >Go back and reread first what I actually wrote and then the most recent >threads you have participated in – that this guy also did – and then tell >me that no uncouth or unkind language was used in them by *anyone*.

I did.   So now the hurdle is "uncouth" or "unkind," eh? This is an UNMODERATED newsgroup, Nancy, in case you forgot.  And if our worse posts contain nothing more than "uncouth" or "unkind" remarks, we should all get a freakin’ prize. This WHINER implied that he was called "names."   He wasn’t called ONE NAME that I can find.  Not ONE!  I checked Dejanews all the way back to hi first post! "So, enjoy the afterglow of shooting off an email in which you call a stranger: "a moron", "a jerk", "a hypocrite", "stupid", "petty", etc,etc." That’s what he said. Now perhaps *others* have passed these words around between each other, but so what?  This is an UNMODERATED newsgroup! Do you still not understand what UNMODERATED means? If "jerk" is the *worst* thing anyone around here calls someone, we’ll all likely get Knighted by the freakin’ Queen herself! > In fact in many of the long threads you participate in (I rate you as a >’barometer’ for these as it happens and just ignore them mostly)

It would be better, Nancy, if you just ignored them TOTALLY, because you seem to pop up in every one of these threads yourself, WHINING along with the rest. Jeff has an excuse.  He’s new.  He doesn’t understand how Usenet works.  He doesn’t understand what UNMODERATED means. He doesn’t understand that WHINING only begets more WHINING! But you have *no* excuse whatsoever. You’re *supposed* to know better. > the >stomping/flaming effect seems to come into play quite a bit.

That’s because this is an UNMODERATED newsgroup! Recently, it’s been going along rather nicely actually, until, that is, all the WHINERS arrived en masse. >And no its not always you who uses the language (just as I stated the >first time) but I *do* think you have an affinity for those kinds of >threads and don’t do a lot to extinguish flames <g>

If that means that I don’t shy away from controversial topics, so what? In what manual does it say that Dogman must stay out of controversial threads? Is it found in the Nancy Holmes Better Homes and Gardens Big Red Book of Rules and Regulations?  What? You know where you can stick that book, eh? >when they flicker or even if a spark flies nearby.

And YOU are *always* there with your freakin’ BIC, aren’t you? You are to flames wars what matches are to gasoline. >And yes I have been guilty of the same upon >occasion <g> but I *try* to be polite at it

Yeah, right.   You are to polite what Mike Tyson is to first dates. >when I do though I’ve been known to slip badly on a poor day.

You sure do have a LOT of "poor days," Nancy. >As for progress – well on my part I’ve been mostly skipping those long >threads where your login is prominent and its helped my tolerance level >quite a bit <g>.

It would behove our "progress," then, Nancy, if you would TOTALLY IGNORE those threads, eh?   Because your version of "mostly" is becoming much too frequent. — Dogman About Hunting Retrievers http://www.i1.net/~dogman/fieldtrl.htm New! Dogman’s Book Recommendations http://www.i1.net/~dogman/books.htm About The Finest Sour Mash Whisky Under The Sun http://www.georgedickel.com "Violence, when there are alternatives, is immoral. Violence, when there are no alternatives, is survival." Dogman "Do unto others as they do unto you." Dogman

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On a very hot day, and with no watermelon in sight, 31 Jul 1998 00:24:25 GMT, "Nancy  E.Holmes or R. Nelson Ruffin" > snip loud whines of a poor pathetic lab owner >enjoy your whining by yourself >the most whining always seems to come from you when you do not approve of >what someone else says >this is an unmoderated group >the fact that *even* I notice the nastier threads have you embedded in the >warp and ‘woof’ of them makes you a nice marker for newbies to watch out >for >if you don’t care for that label – well try changing your behavior and >language and see if the obvious association diminishes

Nancy, here’s a clue:  GIBBERISH Look it up.   That’s what most of your posts look and sound like. Including *this* one. And it’s impossible to actually debate with anyone who speaks only in GIBBERISH. >If I wanted to have >Unmoderated is not a synonym for everyone should be as rude as possible >though you among several others seem to take it that way. >Think about it for a minute – if you find some of what I post to >occasionally be offensive and *I* am trying to be polite, what do you think >it would be like if I did NOT edit my responses? And yes I am thinking >about an argument we previously had where I deliberately did *not* use the >ammunition I might have.

Here’s another clue: PARAGRAPH. Look the word up.   Then try to use one once in a while.  Please? I’m tired of trying to DECYPHER your GIBBERISH. If we’re ever in another war, perhaps the Holmes’ household would act as code-talkers, much like the Navajo Indians did for us during WWII? >My initial point was that you are a good marker for threads where people >are apt to end up flamed or ticked off or whatever you care to call it. You >actually seem to agree with that. Doesn’t mean you are the one and only >just that your addie makes a perfectly good marker for such threads there >are others that also fill that bill.

Here’s your last clue: MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. That way, you see, there will be much less *wasted* bandwidth in r.p.d.b. If you just want to whine, Nancy, can’t you at least pick someone else to whine to? Please? — Dogman About Hunting Retrievers http://www.i1.net/~dogman/fieldtrl.htm New! Dogman’s Book Recommendations http://www.i1.net/~dogman/books.htm About The Finest Sour Mash Whisky Under The Sun http://www.georgedickel.com "Violence, when there are alternatives, is immoral. Violence, when there are no alternatives, is survival." Dogman "Do unto others as they do unto you." Dogman

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writes > It is my personal view that you add as much offensiveness to the world when >you > take offense as when you offend. >Hey, that’s good way to put it.  Heh heh. >Daisy/Cindi

Very good I like the phrase, I shall store it in the grey matter for when the occasion arrises. — Sharon E Lawrence

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Upon my taking a break from listening to The Kenny Wayne Shepherd .net> says: [...] > I have my own personal troll these days that likes to follow >me around! Not many can brag about THAT! >(I have to feel sorry for the troll though, if he weren’t living >vicariously through me, he’d have no life at all!)

[...] Terri, you don’t even have to think twice about who your "personal" troll really is — do you? { :>O — Dogman About Hunting Retrievers http://www.i1.net/~dogman/fieldtrl.htm New! Dogman’s Book Recommendations http://www.i1.net/~dogman/books.htm About The Finest Sour Mash Whisky Under The Sun http://www.georgedickel.com "Violence, when there are alternatives, is immoral. Violence, when there are no alternatives, is survival." Dogman "Do unto others as they do unto you." Dogman

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> Upon my taking a break from listening to The Kenny Wayne Shepherd > .net> says: > [...] > I have my own personal troll these days that likes to follow >me around! Not many can brag about THAT! >(I have to feel sorry for the troll though, if he weren’t living >vicariously through me, he’d have no life at all!) > [...] > Terri, you don’t even have to think twice about who your "personal" > troll really is — do you?

If I had to think twice about it, then I shouldn’t be allowed to drive a motor vehicle nor run the lawnmower! And "who" is the Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band? Do you know of REM? How about Hot Rize? ( if you like folk music at all, (and Banjo’s), you would LOVE Hot Rize!! Terri

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>to prove the point, but it would probably be easier to pour >gasoline on my head.  

Hi, Jeff. I am of the personal opinion that it’s not worth my time to look up old posts on DejaNews to prove points while engaged in defensive battles about who said what to who or who called names first. So I haven’t a clue what this is about, and really don’t care. All I can say is that if you want to stay around, then do. You can be whoever you want to be here. Or you can continue to be who you started out to be. If you’ll stop being defensive about the past and make a clean break from old posts, you can start fresh and have a good time. Watch which threads you get involved in. Stay away from vindictive folks, and make a positive contribution. You’ll get as good as you give here. And that can be a positive or a bummer experience. It’s up to you; I should know. I, too, got off to a poor start on this newsgroup a little over a year ago. I made a newbie mistake in my first post and was immediately dubbed a "troll" because my methods were controversial. I hadn’t been around long enough to realize the sheer amount of ignorance about dog behavior and training that gets displayed here on a regular basis. So I assumed that I would be taken at face value, and the merits of controversial *methods* debated. I did not know that *I* would be personally suspect, and my controversial methods would be viewed as abusive because they ARE routinely abused by idiots, which I was presumed to be. (Odds were…) The more defensive I got, the deeper the hole I was in seemed to get, until I felt quite the martyr, knowing as I did that *I* was in the right and didn’t deserve the abuse I was geting. Well, guess what? Lots of those folks I now count as my true friends, and others are long gone. And some I have found that I couldn’t care less what they think. But the bottom line is, I don’t flame or get flamed unless I *decide* to get into it around here. And I think I have garnered a wee bit of respect  in the last year because of it. Mostly, I stay out of off topic brawls, and hang out here for the comic value, to learn more about dogs and people and cultures, etc, and I try to help out when I feel I have something to contribute. Some folks just love to argue. And that’s their perogative. But remember – You get as good as you give on rpdb. It is my personal view that you add as much offensiveness to the world when you take offense as when you offend. Susan "Dusting off the old soapbox for a brief cameo" Fraser aka Chinchuba, ex-troll

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should be) , or are you telling me that somebody actually did that???!!! Damn, I miss all the good parties. Living with John Law, definitely has it’s disadvantages……I don’t think "anybody" would want to be smokin pot, if Gary was around! Lois E. — Gary & Lois Edwards To visit Sam & Rena’s House Visit http://www.bmi.net/garyl/loisrae/lois.html To Visit Washington State Penitentiary’s History http://www.bmi.net/garyl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >If you think "you’re lost"…..I’m wandering around out here without even a > >pocket lighter to find my way…..how’s everybody been??? > Just when I thought the tunnel had no end, I detect a breath of fresh air. (Hi, > Lois!) I left a trail of bread crumbs on my way in… perhaps if we click the > heels of our ruby slippers and adjust our collanders and don’t forget to phone > home when the comet goes by…damn! I knew I shoulda been practicing tracking! > Sure could use a SPAM sandwich about now…if only I knew where I could go to > shop online… I’m pretty sure Moon remembers her mom’s credit card #… Do > email me. I LOVE to shop in the middle of the night… >Shammie and SheBop you devils! >Don’t give the Edwards’  Schn. crew any ideas! >Their mom will spank their hinnies if they start using the >credit cards! >Lois, >I will check out your site tomorrow. Boy, you HAVE been busy, haven’t >you? >I bet you’re going to be glad when school starts again! >Pupsters are fine here! Been busy perserving food >and trying to keep things alive in this lousy heat wave >we’re having! >Got lots of rasberry sauce and jam canned, fruits’ >coming next; nectarines, peaches and pears. >Freezing lots of squash for spaghetti sauce,too. >Pupsters LOVE the leftovers! >Deena is back, Diane is on vacation these days, >and Joe has gone into volcanic overload. >The same ol’s trolls are here, and some new weird ones. >Fortunately ( or not)they’ll be replaced or jockeying around for >attention >when the new school term comes about. > I have my own personal troll these days that likes to follow >me around! Not many can brag about THAT! >(I have to feel sorry for the troll though, if he weren’t living >vicariously through me, he’d have no life at all!) >Also, >Ya think Gary could come here and let us know HIS feelings >on getting dogs stoned on pot for arthritis? >:) >Just kidding! >In the meantime, let’s all put on our ruby slippers and collanders >and pray for rain and cooler temperatures! >Take care, >Terri >And the gang. >Mojo, Luke and Taffy

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> >He said he got E-mail calling him those names.  You won’t find those >in Dejanews, Joe. > It doesn’t surprise me, Sturtz, that someone like you would try to > stick up for a WHINER.

It doesn’t surprise me, Joe, that you would regard it as such. But you see, I am not sticking up for him, per se.  One of my very favorite activities in the ng, apart from talking about dogs, is pointing out to people when they make palpably absurd statements, like that they searched for someone’s E-mail in Dejanews. When it happens to you, of course, it’s "whining".  And not just "whining", but "WHINING!!!" Tell you what, Joe.  You’re so handy with Dejanews … find me one example of a post I’ve made to this group which can properly be regarded as "whining".  Mind you, real whining, not just your narrow definition of whining as anything diverging from your opinion … jfs

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> On a very hot day, and with no watermelon in sight, 31 Jul 1998

SQUIRT Whiners get a water spray Nancy

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On a very hot day, and with no watermelon in sight, 31 Jul 1998 21:51:15 GMT, "Nancy  E.Holmes or R. Nelson Ruffin" > On a very hot day, and with no watermelon in sight, 31 Jul 1998 >SQUIRT >Whiners get a water spray

And squirters can get a leg ripped off, too, eh? :>) — Dogman About Hunting Retrievers http://www.i1.net/~dogman/fieldtrl.htm New! Dogman’s Book Recommendations http://www.i1.net/~dogman/books.htm About The Finest Sour Mash Whisky Under The Sun http://www.georgedickel.com "Violence, when there are alternatives, is immoral. Violence, when there are no alternatives, is survival." Dogman "Do unto others as they do unto you." Dogman

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>If you think "you’re lost"…..I’m wandering around out here without even a >pocket lighter to find my way…..how’s everybody been???

Just when I thought the tunnel had no end, I detect a breath of fresh air. (Hi, Lois!) I left a trail of bread crumbs on my way in… perhaps if we click the heels of our ruby slippers and adjust our collanders and don’t forget to phone home when the comet goes by…damn! I knew I shoulda been practicing tracking! Sure could use a SPAM sandwich about now…if only I knew where I could go to shop online… I’m pretty sure Moon remembers her mom’s credit card #… Do email me. I LOVE to shop in the middle of the night… Susan Susan F.

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Quote: I’m pretty sure Moon remembers her mom’s credit card #… Do email me. I LOVE to shop in the middle of the night… Dear Auntie Susan — I don’t remember the number.  :( But I know where she keeps it — right in the desk drawer where *she* can order in the middle of the night. Don’t tell Suckerdaddy. She said you should buy some of her bee-yoo-tee-fool coats and jackets from her if you get weak-willed in the middle of the night. She caught me lookin’ at toys in the dog catalogue the other day. Said she would make a spotty leather vest outta me if she found pawprints on her credit card. Love, Moonpie

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> >If you think "you’re lost"…..I’m wandering around out here without even a >pocket lighter to find my way…..how’s everybody been??? > Just when I thought the tunnel had no end, I detect a breath of fresh air. (Hi, > Lois!) I left a trail of bread crumbs on my way in… perhaps if we click the > heels of our ruby slippers and adjust our collanders and don’t forget to phone > home when the comet goes by…damn! I knew I shoulda been practicing tracking! > Sure could use a SPAM sandwich about now…if only I knew where I could go to > shop online… I’m pretty sure Moon remembers her mom’s credit card #… Do > email me. I LOVE to shop in the middle of the night…

Shammie and SheBop you devils! Don’t give the Edwards’  Schn. crew any ideas! Their mom will spank their hinnies if they start using the credit cards! Lois, I will check out your site tomorrow. Boy, you HAVE been busy, haven’t you? I bet you’re going to be glad when school starts again! Pupsters are fine here! Been busy perserving food and trying to keep things alive in this lousy heat wave we’re having! Got lots of rasberry sauce and jam canned, fruits’ coming next; nectarines, peaches and pears. Freezing lots of squash for spaghetti sauce,too. Pupsters LOVE the leftovers! Deena is back, Diane is on vacation these days, and Joe has gone into volcanic overload. The same ol’s trolls are here, and some new weird ones. Fortunately ( or not)they’ll be replaced or jockeying around for attention when the new school term comes about.  I have my own personal troll these days that likes to follow me around! Not many can brag about THAT! (I have to feel sorry for the troll though, if he weren’t living vicariously through me, he’d have no life at all!) Also, Ya think Gary could come here and let us know HIS feelings on getting dogs stoned on pot for arthritis? Just kidding! In the meantime, let’s all put on our ruby slippers and collanders and pray for rain and cooler temperatures! Take care, Terri And the gang. Mojo, Luke and Taffy

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If you think "you’re lost"…..I’m wandering around out here without even a pocket lighter to find my way…..how’s everybody been??? Ummm  my store is online now, but I’m hesitant to give the addy….don’t want to be a spammer….if you want to see it, drop me an email and I’ll give it to you. Lois E. — Gary & Lois Edwards To visit Sam & Rena’s House Visit http://www.bmi.net/garyl/loisrae/lois.html To Visit Washington State Penitentiary’s History http://www.bmi.net/garyl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well I looked in Dejanews (as I wondered what you were talking about) >snip >Me too. I had NO clue as to what the heck he was talking about! >Terri

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I, too, got off to a poor start on this newsgroup a little over a year ago. I > made a newbie mistake in my first post and was immediately dubbed a "troll" > because my methods were controversial. I hadn’t been around long enough to > realize the sheer amount of ignorance about dog behavior and training that gets > displayed here on a regular basis. So I assumed that I would be taken at face > value, and the merits of controversial *methods* debated. I did not know that > *I* would be personally suspect, and my controversial methods would be viewed > as abusive because they ARE routinely abused by idiots, which I was presumed to > be. (Odds were…) The more defensive I got, the deeper the hole I was in > seemed to get, until I felt quite the martyr, knowing as I did that *I* was in > the right and didn’t deserve the abuse I was geting. Well, guess what? Lots of > those folks I now count as my true friends, and others are long gone. And some > I have found that I couldn’t care less what they think. But the bottom line is, > I don’t flame or get flamed unless I *decide* to get into it around here. And I > think I have garnered a wee bit of respect  in the last year because of it. > Mostly, I stay out of off topic brawls, and hang out here for the comic value, > to learn more about dogs and people and cultures, etc, and I try to help out > when I feel I have something to contribute.

I, too, was flamed red, raw and crispy when I first came here.  But I’m a tough old gal.  :-)  I was accused of not only lying about a dog bite incident, but of lying about my entire life, and of course of coming here only to troll.  And I, like you Susan, had no clue when I first posted that what I had to say would be controversial.  Well, whaddayaknow. > Some folks just love to argue. And that’s their perogative. But remember – You > get as good as you give on rpdb.

Yep. > It is my personal view that you add as much offensiveness to the world when you > take offense as when you offend.

Hey, that’s good way to put it.  Heh heh. Daisy/Cindi — Member – Ohlone Humane Society, Dog Rescue in the SF Bay Area Looking for a pet?  Let me know!

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> snip loud whines of a poor pathetic lab owner

enjoy your whining by yourself the most whining always seems to come from you when you do not approve of what someone else says this is an unmoderated group the fact that *even* I notice the nastier threads have you embedded in the warp and ‘woof’ of them makes you a nice marker for newbies to watch out for if you don’t care for that label – well try changing your behavior and language and see if the obvious association diminishes Unmoderated is not a synonym for everyone should be as rude as possible though you among several others seem to take it that way. Think about it for a minute – if you find some of what I post to occasionally be offensive and *I* am trying to be polite, what do you think it would be like if I did NOT edit my responses? And yes I am thinking about an argument we previously had where I deliberately did *not* use the ammunition I might have. My initial point was that you are a good marker for threads where people are apt to end up flamed or ticked off or whatever you care to call it. You actually seem to agree with that. Doesn’t mean you are the one and only just that your addie makes a perfectly good marker for such threads there are others that also fill that bill. Nancy

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[...] > He wasn’t called ONE NAME that I can find.  Not ONE!  I checked > Dejanews all the way back to hi first post! > "So, enjoy the afterglow of shooting off an email in which you call a > stranger: "a moron", "a jerk", "a hypocrite", "stupid", "petty", > etc,etc." > That’s what he said. >He said he got E-mail calling him those names.  You won’t find those >in Dejanews, Joe.

It doesn’t surprise me, Sturtz, that someone like you would try to stick up for a WHINER. After all, you’re one of the newsgroup’s whiniest whiners, eh? > Jeff has an excuse.  He’s new.  He doesn’t understand how Usenet > works. >Probably knows the difference between E-mail and Usenet posts, though

When WHINERS even feel the need to POST TO USENET and WHINE there about the e-mails they get, I reserve the right to tell them to stick it in their ear. I’m only surprised that he didn’t get called worse. So, Sturtz, stick it in your ear — WHINER. — Dogman About Hunting Retrievers http://www.i1.net/~dogman/fieldtrl.htm New! Dogman’s Book Recommendations http://www.i1.net/~dogman/books.htm About The Finest Sour Mash Whisky Under The Sun http://www.georgedickel.com "Violence, when there are alternatives, is immoral. Violence, when there are no alternatives, is survival." Dogman "Do unto others as they do unto you." Dogman

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     I went back and checked my original post.  I _did_ say "email", right?  If they are showing up on Dejanews, let me know.  I would post my emails to prove the point, but it would probably be easier to pour gasoline on my head.            Jeff

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> This WHINER implied that he was called "names."   > He wasn’t called ONE NAME that I can find.  Not ONE!  I checked > Dejanews all the way back to hi first post! > "So, enjoy the afterglow of shooting off an email in which you call a > stranger: "a moron", "a jerk", "a hypocrite", "stupid", "petty", > etc,etc." > That’s what he said.

He said he got E-mail calling him those names.  You won’t find those in Dejanews, Joe. > Jeff has an excuse.  He’s new.  He doesn’t understand how Usenet > works.

Probably knows the difference between E-mail and Usenet posts, though .. jfs

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Jeffrey, It’s too bad you can’t sift through the non-helpful albeit idiots who flame you etc.  There are many more good, informative, helpful, insightful, humorous, dog loving, in-the-same-boat-as-you people here than there are the flamers. Isn’t it the same way in life. Don’t let a few abusive people stop you from participating in this wondrous adventure called newsgroups. When you read the newspaper or watch the evening news don’t certain things rile you up or that you disagree with? Sure, but that shouldn’t keep you from reading or watching, you might as well live like a hermit. I’m not insulting or flaming you by any means. Just a little note to try to get you to reconsider. After all, we need balance here     Janis remove NOSPAM to email

  I have posted to this group four times or so.  Only once, have I posted off topic, and that, at least, was relevant to the group.  At least I have not attempted to discuss the availability of food in Rwanda.  In return, I have pretty much been called every name I could hope to be called on the internet.  I especially enjoyed being told to shut up because one can post anything they want to this group.  Well, duh.    Since I got my dog, I have endeavored to explore every avenue of information to make her life better, etc.  Obviously, this avenue is a dead end.  My concern for my pet is greater than my need to trust the judgement of _certain_ people who can only boost their fragile egos by verbally assaulting others.  This group is perfect for them because in the real world,  whatever personal pathogens prevent them from engaging in social interaction, probably also contribute to their inability to win a debate.    So, enjoy the afterglow of shooting off an email in which you call a stranger: "a moron", "a jerk", "a hypocrite", "stupid", "petty", etc,etc.  And repeat to yourself: "This is as good as it gets", "This is as good as it gets"…. until the sadness of that statement sinks in.          Jeff

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> Well I looked in Dejanews (as I wondered what you were talking about)

snip Me too. I had NO clue as to what the heck he was talking about! Terri

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Well I looked in Dejanews (as I wondered what you were talking about) and from the topics you chose to participate in – well maybe if you had been as careful in the dog groups as the antique groups in your topic choices you would not have made a target of yourself for the less pleasant among us. Hint – seems as if the thread has Dogman in it the language will get crude (not that its him always that does it) and rude. Nancy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->   I have posted to this group four times or so.  Only once, have I > posted off topic, and that, at least, was relevant to the group.  At > least I have not attempted to discuss the availability of food in > Rwanda.  In return, I have pretty much been called every name I could > hope to be called on the internet.  I especially enjoyed being told to > shut up because one can post anything they want to this group.  Well, > duh. >    Since I got my dog, I have endeavored to explore every avenue of > information to make her life better, etc.  Obviously, this avenue is a > dead end.  My concern for my pet is greater than my need to trust the > judgement of _certain_ people who can only boost their fragile egos by > verbally assaulting others.  This group is perfect for them because in > the real world,  whatever personal pathogens prevent them from engaging > in social interaction, probably also contribute to their inability to > win a debate. >    So, enjoy the afterglow of shooting off an email in which you call a > stranger: "a moron", "a jerk", "a hypocrite", "stupid", "petty", > etc,etc.  And repeat to yourself: "This is as good as it gets", "This is > as good as it gets"…. until the sadness of that statement sinks in. >          Jeff

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On a very hot day, and with no watermelon in sight, 30 Jul 1998 00:21:37 GMT, "Nancy  E.Holmes or R. Nelson Ruffin" >Well I looked in Dejanews (as I wondered what you were talking about) and >from the topics you chose to participate in – well maybe if you had been as >careful in the dog groups as the antique groups in your topic choices you >would not have made a target of yourself for the less pleasant among us. >Hint – seems as if the thread has Dogman in it the language will get crude >(not that its him always that does it) and rude. >Nancy

To Nancy: OIC…this is all now *my* fault, eh? And just when I thought we were making some progress, Nancy. :>( – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->   I have posted to this group four times or so.  Only once, have I > posted off topic, and that, at least, was relevant to the group.  At > least I have not attempted to discuss the availability of food in > Rwanda.  In return, I have pretty much been called every name I could > hope to be called on the internet.  I especially enjoyed being told to > shut up because one can post anything they want to this group.  Well, > duh. >    Since I got my dog, I have endeavored to explore every avenue of > information to make her life better, etc.  Obviously, this avenue is a > dead end.  My concern for my pet is greater than my need to trust the > judgement of _certain_ people who can only boost their fragile egos by > verbally assaulting others.  This group is perfect for them because in > the real world,  whatever personal pathogens prevent them from engaging > in social interaction, probably also contribute to their inability to > win a debate. >    So, enjoy the afterglow of shooting off an email in which you call a > stranger: "a moron", "a jerk", "a hypocrite", "stupid", "petty", > etc,etc.  And repeat to yourself: "This is as good as it gets", "This is > as good as it gets"…. until the sadness of that statement sinks in.

To Jeff: Jeff, I checked all your recent posts, and here’s what I discovered: You just like to WHINE, don’t you? I didn’t find *any* posts where anyone ever called you any of the above names.  Not one. The closest would be Daisy calling one of your posts "hypocritical" because you were WHINING about so called off-topic posts by making OFF TOPIC POSTS. That is, you *were* being hypocritical. And WHINY. But she *helped* you anyway, didn’t she? So it’s obvious, Jeff, that you don’t know how Usenet works, especially its UNMODERATED newsgroups, which is what r.p.d.b is — UNMODERATED. You apparently can’t hack it in an open and free forum, Jeff, so I recommend that you seek the comfort and safety of a MODERATED mail list and that you seek it as soon as possible, because it will become *increasingly* more unpleasant for you here if you keep up the WHINING. That’s a GUARANTEE, Jeff. — Dogman About Hunting Retrievers http://www.i1.net/~dogman/fieldtrl.htm New! Dogman’s Book Recommendations http://www.i1.net/~dogman/books.htm About The Finest Sour Mash Whisky Under The Sun http://www.georgedickel.com "Violence, when there are alternatives, is immoral. Violence, when there are no alternatives, is survival." Dogman "Do unto others as they do unto you." Dogman

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  I have posted to this group four times or so.  Only once, have I posted off topic, and that, at least, was relevant to the group.  At least I have not attempted to discuss the availability of food in Rwanda.  In return, I have pretty much been called every name I could hope to be called on the internet.  I especially enjoyed being told to shut up because one can post anything they want to this group.  Well, duh.    Since I got my dog, I have endeavored to explore every avenue of information to make her life better, etc.  Obviously, this avenue is a dead end.  My concern for my pet is greater than my need to trust the judgement of _certain_ people who can only boost their fragile egos by verbally assaulting others.  This group is perfect for them because in the real world,  whatever personal pathogens prevent them from engaging in social interaction, probably also contribute to their inability to win a debate.    So, enjoy the afterglow of shooting off an email in which you call a stranger: "a moron", "a jerk", "a hypocrite", "stupid", "petty", etc,etc.  And repeat to yourself: "This is as good as it gets", "This is as good as it gets"…. until the sadness of that statement sinks in.          Jeff

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