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He seems to be very disturbed from his posts. He is calling everybody a liar and rambles on about nothing in all his waste of bandwidth posts. Jerry do yourself a favour and get a life.
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I am a lurker who has also noticed all the junk coming from Jerrie How. I wouldn’t worry about him, as he is obviously someone with more time than brains as evidenced by the constant amount of postings from him. Nothing better to do obviously than push his products. As many other people have done, I would advise to ignore anything from Jerrie How – let him waste his time, not yours. > He seems to be very disturbed from his posts. > He is calling everybody a liar and rambles on about nothing in all his waste > of bandwidth posts. > Jerry do yourself a favour and get a life.
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Cool the number of posts has dwindled since putting the saddo on my KillFile Cheers gp_fan
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Hello billbob,
> He seems to be very disturbed from his posts.
You are a Seer? A Mystic? Perhaps just an ordinary human being who’se been struck by enlightenment? Could it be that you’re just an ordinary rpdb newbie??? At worst, your just and ordinary man who can READ. Any ordinary reader should be able to see I’m VERY disturbed by the commonly accepted methods of abuse taught by our most "respected experts" here. > He is calling everybody a liar
A spad is a spade, and I’ve got PROOF below. READ IT! > and rambles on about nothing in all his waste of bandwidth posts.
NOTHING? You call "expert trainers" BEATING DOGS WITH STICKS, NOTHING??? Ah, ha! You’re just a buffoon who obviously hasn’t read the posts, OR YOU’RE ONE OF THEM! Otherwise, you’d KNOW the content of those posts are DIRECT QUOTS from our renowned Gang Of Thugs koehler trainers and freestyle DOG ABUSERS! > Jerry do yourself a favour and get a life.
Do yourself a favor, and either READ my posts, or TAKE ISSUE with their CONTENT. Got any criticism of the FACTS as I present them??? Tell us HOWE the dog understands koehler coming back every twenty minutes to punish him again for the same mistake he’s tied him up next to, to housetrain him??? HOWE do koehler KNOWS the dog don’t think he’s coming back to beat him every twenty minutes for the same mistake, just because you’re mad at him, instead of just TRAINING him??? See what I mean, DUMMY? You can’t justify that. Tell us HOWE the dog knows he shouldn’t be barking? That is, until the beatings take effect, after ENOUGH lessons? Tell us HOWE COME you think dogs might want to take a big chunk out of an abusive Thug who beats him every twenty minutes for crappin on the floor in a room you’ve restricted him to for this purpose, and then tied him next to a forced accident? And when koehler OCCASIONALLY find a dog who objects to his training, why does he HANG the dog, instead of calm them down and teach them there’s nothing to be afraid of??? That’s the only question ANYONE of you CAN answer, DUMMY. The answer is OBVIOUS. koehler trainers are DOG ABUSING COWARDS. When you’re done with the above, maybe you can give some defense for the dog abuse the and lies below FROM OUR Gang Of Thugs members??? Don’t miss the "GOOD KOEHLER TRAINING." Your pal, Jerry. Yours for freedom of information, Jerry "Freedom Of Information Act, Box10210 Pueblo, Colorado," Howe. lyinglynn writes: > For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and > pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it. > When he barks, use the line for a correction.
A CORRECTION? You’re going to JERK and CHOKE this new foster dog out of being AFRAID… that’s CORRECTION? lyinlynn says: "I LOVE KOEHLER," and in the next breath denies being a ‘koehler trainer.’ Is that because she ALSO shocks dogs, and koehler never had a shock collar? Pity that he was born too late to benefit from such a wondrous teaching tool, ISN’T it??? Most of our rpdb regulars are devout koehler trainers. Here are koehler’s "solutions" for barking and housetraining, and ENDORSEMENTS of koehler’s methods by our Gang Members. Here’s some good training tips from the same source cindy moore uses.
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." Koehler on correcting the Barking Dog Thunder through the door or gate, snatch up the belt that you’ve conveniently placed, and descend on him. He’ll have no chance to dodge if you grab the line and reel him in until his front feet are raised off the floor or, if he’s a big dog, until you’ve snubbed him up with a hitch on something (ceiling hook, rafters, tree limb, door, or even over your shoulder, if you know HOWE. j.h.) While he’s held in close, lay the strap vigorously against his thighs. Keep pouring it on him until he thinks it’s the bitter end. A real whaling now may cut down somewhat on the number of repeat performances that will be necessary. When you’re finished and the dog is convinced that he is, put him on a long down to think things over while you catch your breath. After fifteen or twenty minutes, release him from the stay and leave the area again." Koehler on correcting the housebreaking backslider. "If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they’re winning and will continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he’s made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing. (Dogs are REALLY stupid. J.H.) In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him." (MORE good KOEHLER training below, AFTER lyingfrosty dahl) Amy lyingfrosty dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article (SHE’D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU DON’T READ IT!), there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears (INDEED, SHE PINCHES THEM WITH SPIKES). "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. I would never slap a dog (SHE TEACHES PEOPLE TO BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM). I would never advise anyone to slap a dog (SHE’S A PROVEN LIAR AND DOG ABUSER, do you expect her to ADMIT THE TRUTH???). I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, according to lyinglynn and avrama…. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in" With your hand on the collar and ear, say, ‘fetch.’ Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear. Gotta LOVE koehler. dahl makes koheler look like St. Francis. Our professor of behavior Wisc. U., lyingdoc dermer endorses koehler. (He said: "I punish dog’s behavior, NOT the dog." You gonna believe THAT CRAP, PEOPLE???) ron likes to use the heavy belt on his dogs "Read for koehler for content" Mark Shaw, Sadist, rpdb regular. "I LOVE KOHELER" lyinglynn, pathological liar, noted dog abuser. "There’s much wisdom in koehler," deana pace. (Her dogs run away from home.) "Read koehler," lyingdogDUMMY. (koehler is all he understands.) "Read koehler, cindymorons k-9 web faq’s page," ludwig smith. "Don’t let him do that, read cindymooreon’s web page," boob maida. "I’m not a koehler trainer," cindymoron, lyinglynn, lyingfrosty dahl. But they spout koehler’s methods. They don’t consider themselves koehler trainers because they shock, twist and pinch ears and toes, and BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS to MOTIVATE them. And now for a little MOORE good koehler training: BARKING, WHINING, HOWLING, YODELING, SCREAMING, AND WAILING We’ll begin with the easiest kind of vocalist to correct: the one that charges gates, fences, doors, and windows, barking furiously at familiar or imaginary people and objects. A few clusters of BBs from a good slingshot, in conjunction with the light line and plenty of temptations, will cause such a dog to use his mind rather than his mouth. But you won’t make the permanent impression unless you supply dozens of opportunities for him to exercise the control he thus acquires. Make sure these opportunities don’t always come at the same time of the day, else he may learn to observe the "quiet hour" and pursue his old routines at other times. With the help of the light line, it will be easy to follow the BBs with a long down to make sure he gets the most from his lesson. As was mentioned before, eliminating the senseless barking will not lessen the dog’s value as a watchdog but rather, as he grows more discriminating, increase it. The dog who vocalizes in bratty protest or lonesomeness because you’re gone constitutes a different problem. If it is impractical for someone to stay with him constantly (there are owners who cater to neurosis by employing dog sitters), you’ll have to heed the neighbors and the law and quiet the dog. This calls for a little ingenuity as well as a heavy hand. Attach a line to your dog’s collar, so your corrective effort doesn’t turn into a footrace around the house until you reach a stalemate under the bed. This use of the line in the correction will also serve to establish it as a reminder to be quiet as the dog drags it around when you’re not present. Next, equip yourself with a man’s leather belt or a strap heavy enough to give your particular dog a good tanning. Yup-we’re going to strike him. Real hard. Remember, you’re dealing with a dog who knows he should be quiet and neighbors who have legal rights to see that he does. Now leave, and let your fading footsteps tell the dog of your going. When you’ve walked to a point where he’ll think you’re gone but where you could hear any noises … read more »
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Hello gp_fan,
> I am a lurker who has also noticed all the junk coming from Jerrie
How. You are an anonymous poster. You’re probable someone mentioned below… > I wouldn’t worry about him,
Depends on HOWE you feel about HURTING DOGS to train them… > as he is obviously someone with more time than brains
HOWE MUCH brains does it take to beat a dog every twenty minutes for the same mistake you’ve tied it next to??? > as evidenced by the constant amount of postings from him.
The constant posting which are LAUGHED AT by our Gang Of Thugs who are QUOTED teaching us to ABUSE DOGS, and their DENIAL of it??? > Nothing better to do obviously than push his products.
Talk about the CONTENT of my posts. There’s NO MENTION of my Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too) product that is 100% money back, satisfaction guaranteed, FOREVER. > As many other people have done, I would advise to ignore anything from > Jerrie How – let him waste his time, not yours.
Yes, if they don’t read the posts, you and your pals won’t be EXPOSED. > He is calling everybody a liar
A spade is a spade, and I’ve got PROOF below. READ IT! > and rambles on about nothing in all his waste of bandwidth posts.
NOTHING? You call our "expert trainers" BEATING DOGS WITH STICKS, NOTHING??? Ah, ha! You’re just a buffoon who obviously hasn’t read the posts, OR YOU’RE ONE OF THEM! Otherwise, you’d KNOW the content of those posts are DIRECT QUOTES from our renowned Gang Of Thugs koehler trainers and freestyle DOG ABUSERS! > Jerry do yourself a favour and get a life.
Do yourself a favor, and either READ my posts AND AGREE, or TAKE ISSUE with their CONTENT. Got any criticism of the FACTS as I present them??? Tell us HOWE the dog understands koehler coming back every twenty minutes to punish him again for the same mistake he’s tied him up next to, to housetrain him??? HOWE do koehler KNOWS the dog don’t think he’s coming back to beat him every twenty minutes for the same mistake, just because you’re mad at him, instead of just TRAINING him??? See what I mean, DUMMY? You can’t justify that. Tell us HOWE the dog knows he shouldn’t be barking? That is, until the beatings take effect, after ENOUGH lessons? Tell us HOWE COME you think dogs might want to take a big chunk out of an abusive Thug who beats him every twenty minutes for crappin on the floor in a room you’ve restricted him to for this purpose, and then tied him next to a forced accident? And when koehler OCCASIONALLY find a dog who objects to his training, why does he HANG the dog, instead of calm them down and teach them there’s nothing to be afraid of??? That’s the only question ANYONE of you CAN answer, DUMMY. The answer is OBVIOUS. koehler trainers are DOG ABUSING COWARDS. When you’re done with the above, maybe you can give some defense for the dog abuse the and lies below FROM OUR Gang Of Thugs members??? Don’t miss the "GOOD KOEHLER TRAINING." Your pal, Jerry. Yours for freedom of information, Jerry "Freedom Of Information Act, Box10210 Pueblo, Colorado," Howe. lyinglynn writes: > For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and > pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it. > When he barks, use the line for a correction.
A CORRECTION? You’re going to JERK and CHOKE this new foster dog out of being AFRAID… that’s CORRECTION? lyinlynn says: "I LOVE KOEHLER," and in the next breath denies being a ‘koehler trainer.’ Is that because she ALSO shocks dogs, and koehler never had a shock collar? Pity that he was born too late to benefit from such a wondrous teaching tool, ISN’T it??? Most of our rpdb regulars are devout koehler trainers. Here are koehler’s "solutions" for barking and housetraining, and ENDORSEMENTS of koehler’s methods by our Gang Members. Here’s some good training tips from the same source cindy moore uses.
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." Koehler on correcting the Barking Dog Thunder through the door or gate, snatch up the belt that you’ve conveniently placed, and descend on him. He’ll have no chance to dodge if you grab the line and reel him in until his front feet are raised off the floor or, if he’s a big dog, until you’ve snubbed him up with a hitch on something (ceiling hook, rafters, tree limb, door, or even over your shoulder, if you know HOWE. j.h.) While he’s held in close, lay the strap vigorously against his thighs. Keep pouring it on him until he thinks it’s the bitter end. A real whaling now may cut down somewhat on the number of repeat performances that will be necessary. When you’re finished and the dog is convinced that he is, put him on a long down to think things over while you catch your breath. After fifteen or twenty minutes, release him from the stay and leave the area again." Koehler on correcting the housebreaking backslider. "If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they’re winning and will continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he’s made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing. (Dogs are REALLY stupid. J.H.) In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him." (MORE good KOEHLER training below, AFTER lyingfrosty dahl) Amy lyingfrosty dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article (SHE’D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU DON’T READ IT!), there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears (INDEED, SHE PINCHES THEM WITH SPIKES). "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. I would never slap a dog (SHE TEACHES PEOPLE TO BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM). I would never advise anyone to slap a dog (SHE’S A PROVEN LIAR AND DOG ABUSER, do you expect her to ADMIT THE TRUTH???). I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, according to lyinglynn and avrama…. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in" With your hand on the collar and ear, say, ‘fetch.’ Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear. Gotta LOVE koehler. dahl makes koheler look like St. Francis. Our professor of behavior Wisc. U., lyingdoc dermer endorses koehler. (He said: "I punish dog’s behavior, NOT the dog." You gonna believe THAT CRAP, PEOPLE???) ron likes to use the heavy belt on his dogs "Read for koehler for content" Mark Shaw, Sadist, rpdb regular. "I LOVE KOHELER" lyinglynn, pathological liar, noted dog abuser. "There’s much wisdom in koehler," deana pace. (Her dogs run away from home.) "Read koehler," lyingdogDUMMY. (koehler is all he understands.) "Read koehler, cindymorons k-9 web faq’s page," ludwig smith. "Don’t let him do that, read cindymooreon’s web page," boob maida. "I’m not a koehler trainer," cindymoron, lyinglynn, lyingfrosty dahl. But they spout koehler’s methods. They don’t consider themselves koehler trainers because they shock, twist and pinch ears and toes, and BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS to MOTIVATE them. And now for a little MOORE good koehler training: BARKING, WHINING, HOWLING, YODELING, SCREAMING, AND WAILING We’ll begin with the easiest kind of vocalist to correct: the one that charges gates, fences, doors, and windows, barking furiously at familiar or imaginary people and objects. A few clusters of BBs from a good slingshot, in conjunction with the light line and plenty of temptations, will cause such a dog to use his mind rather than his mouth. But you won’t make the permanent impression unless you supply dozens of opportunities for him to exercise the control he thus acquires. Make sure these opportunities don’t always come at the same time of the day, else he may learn to observe the "quiet hour" and pursue his old routines at other times. With the help of the light line, it will be easy to follow the BBs with a long down to make sure he gets the most from his lesson. As was mentioned before, eliminating the senseless barking will not lessen the dog’s value as a watchdog but rather, as he grows more discriminating, increase it. The dog who vocalizes in bratty protest or lonesomeness because you’re gone constitutes a different problem. If it is impractical for someone to stay with him constantly (there are owners who cater to neurosis by employing dog sitters), you’ll have to heed the neighbors and the law and quiet the dog. This calls for a little ingenuity as well as a heavy hand. Attach a line to your dog’s collar, so your corrective effort doesn’t turn into a footrace around the house until you reach a … read more »
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> At worst, your just and ordinary man who can READ. Any ordinary reader > should be able to see I’m VERY disturbed by the commonly accepted > methods of abuse taught by our most "respected experts" here.
The most abusive method being the SPIKE & SQUIRT, it can kill a dog. Before you buy.
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> I am a lurker who has also noticed all the junk coming from Jerrie >Howe. > I wouldn’t worry about him, as he is obviously someone with more time > than brains as evidenced by the constant amount of postings from him. > Nothing better to do obviously than push his products. > As many other people have done, I would advise to ignore anything from > Jerrie How – let him waste his time, not yours.
I agree, I sometimes post to this board, and Jerrys posts always seem long winded and off topic. Sometimes I can’t figure out what he is trying to say. Rob H Before you buy.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am a lurker who has also noticed all the junk coming from Jerrie >Howe. > I wouldn’t worry about him, as he is obviously someone with more time > than brains as evidenced by the constant amount of postings from him. > Nothing better to do obviously than push his products. > As many other people have done, I would advise to ignore anything from > Jerrie How – let him waste his time, not yours. > I agree, I sometimes post to this board, and Jerrys posts always seem > long winded and off topic. Sometimes I can’t figure out what he is > trying to say. > Rob H
Hello Rob, My posts are so long because there is so MUCH material that is pertinent to dog behavior and our dog abusers and liars here… Try reading this SHORT ONE, and let me know EXACTLY what you think: HOWE MUCH brains does it take to beat a dog every twenty minutes for the same mistake you’ve tied it next to??? Do yourself a favor, and either READ my posts AND AGREE, or TAKE ISSUE with their CONTENT. Got any criticism of the FACTS as I present them??? Tell us HOWE the dog understands koehler coming back every twenty minutes to punish him again for the same mistake he’s tied him up next to, to housetrain him??? HOWE do koehler KNOWS the dog don’t think he’s coming back to beat him every twenty minutes for the same mistake, just because you’re mad at him, instead of just TRAINING him??? Tell us HOWE the dog knows he shouldn’t be barking? That is, until the beatings take effect, after ENOUGH lessons? Tell us HOWE COME you think dogs might want to take a big chunk out of an abusive Thug who beats him every twenty minutes for crappin on the floor in a room you’ve restricted him to for this purpose, and then tied him next to a forced accident? And when koehler OCCASIONALLY find a dog who objects to his training, why does he HANG the dog, instead of calm them down and teach them there’s nothing to be afraid of??? That’s the only question ANYONE of you CAN answer. The answer is OBVIOUS. koehler trainers are DOG ABUSING COWARDS. When you’re done with the above, maybe you can give some defense for the dog abuse the and lies below, FROM OUR Gang Of Thugs members??? Don’t miss the "GOOD KOEHLER TRAINING" below. Yours for freedom of information, Jerry "Freedom Of Information Act, Box10210 Pueblo, Colorado," Howe. Most of our rpdb regulars are devout koehler trainers. Here are koehler’s "solutions" for barking and housetraining, and ENDORSEMENTS of koehler’s methods by our Gang Members. Here’s some good training tips from the same source cindy moore uses.
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." Koehler on correcting the Barking Dog Thunder through the door or gate, snatch up the belt that you’ve conveniently placed, and descend on him. He’ll have no chance to dodge if you grab the line and reel him in until his front feet are raised off the floor or, if he’s a big dog, until you’ve snubbed him up with a hitch on something (ceiling hook, rafters, tree limb, door, or even over your shoulder, if you know HOWE. j.h.) While he’s held in close, lay the strap vigorously against his thighs. Keep pouring it on him until he thinks it’s the bitter end. A real whaling now may cut down somewhat on the number of repeat performances that will be necessary. When you’re finished and the dog is convinced that he is, put him on a long down to think things over while you catch your breath. After fifteen or twenty minutes, release him from the stay and leave the area again." Koehler on correcting the housebreaking backslider. "If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they’re winning and will continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he’s made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing. (Dogs are REALLY stupid. J.H.) In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him." lyinglynn writes: > For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and > pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it. > When he barks, use the line for a correction.
A CORRECTION? You’re going to JERK and CHOKE this new foster dog out of being AFRAID… that’s CORRECTION? lyinlynn says: "I LOVE KOEHLER," and in the next breath denies being a ‘koehler trainer.’ Is that because she ALSO shocks dogs, and koehler never had a shock collar? Pity that he was born too late to benefit from such a wondrous teaching tool, ISN’T it??? (MORE good KOEHLER training below, AFTER lyingfrosty dahl) Amy lyingfrosty dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article (SHE’D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU DON’T READ IT!), there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears (INDEED, SHE PINCHES THEM WITH SPIKES). "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. I would never slap a dog (SHE TEACHES PEOPLE TO BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM). I would never advise anyone to slap a dog (SHE’S A PROVEN LIAR AND DOG ABUSER, do you expect her to ADMIT THE TRUTH???). I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, according to lyinglynn and avrama…. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in" With your hand on the collar and ear, say, ‘fetch.’ Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear. Gotta LOVE koehler. dahl makes koheler look like St. Francis. Our professor of behavior Wisc. U., lyingdoc dermer endorses koehler. (He said: "I punish dog’s behavior, NOT the dog." You gonna believe THAT CRAP, PEOPLE???) ron likes to use the heavy belt on his dogs "Read for koehler for content" Mark Shaw, Sadist, rpdb regular. "I LOVE KOHELER" lyinglynn, pathological liar, noted dog abuser. "There’s much wisdom in koehler," deana pace. (Her dogs run away from home.) "Read koehler," lyingdogDUMMY. (koehler is all he understands.) "Read koehler, cindymorons k-9 web faq’s page," ludwig smith. "Don’t let him do that, read cindymooreon’s web page," boob maida. "I’m not a koehler trainer," cindymoron, lyinglynn, lyingfrosty dahl. But they spout koehler’s methods. They don’t consider themselves koehler trainers because they shock, twist and pinch ears and toes, and BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS to MOTIVATE them. And now for a little MOORE good koehler training: BARKING, WHINING, HOWLING, YODELING, SCREAMING, AND WAILING We’ll begin with the easiest kind of vocalist to correct: the one that charges gates, fences, doors, and windows, barking furiously at familiar or imaginary people and objects. A few clusters of BBs from a good slingshot, in conjunction with the light line and plenty of temptations, will cause such a dog to use his mind rather than his mouth. But you won’t make the permanent impression unless you supply dozens of opportunities for him to exercise the control he thus acquires. Make sure these opportunities don’t always come at the same time of the day, else he may learn to observe the "quiet hour" and pursue his old routines at other times. With the help of the light line, it will be easy to follow the BBs with a long down to make sure he gets the most from his lesson. As was mentioned before, eliminating the senseless barking will not lessen the dog’s value as a watchdog but rather, as he grows more discriminating, increase it. The dog who vocalizes in bratty protest or lonesomeness because you’re gone constitutes a different problem. If it is impractical for someone to stay with him constantly (there are owners who cater to neurosis by employing dog sitters), you’ll have to heed the neighbors and the law and quiet the dog. This calls for a little ingenuity as well as a heavy hand. Attach a line to your dog’s collar, so your corrective effort doesn’t turn into a footrace around the house until you reach a stalemate under the bed. This use of the line in the correction will also serve to establish it as a reminder to be quiet as the dog drags it around when you’re not present. Next, equip yourself with a man’s leather belt or a strap heavy enough to give your particular dog a good tanning. Yup-we’re going to strike him. Real hard. Remember, you’re dealing with a dog who knows he should be quiet and neighbors who have legal rights to see that he does. Now leave, and let your fading footsteps tell the dog of your going. When you’ve walked to a point where he’ll think you’re gone but where you could hear any noises he might … read more »
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> He seems to be very disturbed from his posts.
Yes. He apparently has been/is hospitalized (we’re not sure of his current status; he’s probably not, either). > He is calling everybody a liar and rambles on about nothing in all his > waste of bandwidth posts.
Well, his head is made entirely of baloney. I think you’ll agree this accounts for much of his behavior. > Jerry do yourself a favour and get a life.
Sadly, this is all the life he has. Look at it this way: The more time he spends raving here, the less likely that he is actually interacting with any dogs. Which is a good thing. This can be made painless for the reader by employing a kill file. A win-win situation! No one has to read what he writes, and no dogs are subjected to his training, particularly his abusive protection training methods! Yay! –Terri & Harlan (Hurrah!) — What Would Robot Frank Do? Before you buy.
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> I agree, I sometimes post to this board, and Jerrys posts always > seem long winded and off topic. Sometimes I can’t figure out what he > is trying to say.
Here, I can help you out. What Jerry is trying to say is: "Hi. My head is made entirely of baloney. I had Jello today." HTH! –Terri & Harlan (Universal Translator provided by HarCo Industries) — What Would Robot Frank Do? Before you buy.
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Hello psychoclown, > He seems to be very disturbed from his posts. > Yes. He apparently has been/is hospitalized (we’re not sure of his > current status; he’s probably not, either).
My doctor said I could go home any time I felt ready to deal with dog abusers in real life. He said I’m doing well, and that the psychosis was only temporary, a side effect of seeing such incredulous abuse as you and your pals ENJOY putting to your dogs. > He is calling everybody a liar and rambles on about nothing in all his > waste of bandwidth posts.
I’ve got it all in their own words. Just read down the page, it’s ALL THEIR OWN TEXT. > Well, his head is made entirely of baloney.
It’s SOY! So much for a psycho clown. > I think you’ll agree this > accounts for much of his behavior.
Lets talk about BEATING DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM? > Jerry do yourself a favour and get a life. > Sadly, this is all the life he has.
Only till you bums get the idea that the more you post, the worse you’re gonig to look. > Look at it this way: The more time he spends raving here, the less > likely that he is actually interacting with any dogs. Which is a good > thing.
I have many grateful posters writing me thanking me for helping them learn NOT to hurt their dogs to train them anymore. Got one last nite from Italy. Lady adopted three greyhounds off the track, and needed to learn HOWE to control them without slapping them around as she’d learned in dog training school. She LOVED the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com . > This can be made painless for the reader by employing a kill file.
Yes, you bums are all screaming DON’T BELIEVE JERRY, KILLFILE HIM. Why do you suppose you would be AFRAID of my LIES? I’ll post them below for you. > A win-win situation!
Yes. INDEED. They’ll find out you’ve been FIBBING. > No one has to read what he writes, and no dogs are > subjected to his training,
Youre LYING AGAIN. > particularly his abusive protection training methods! Yay!
QUOTE THE TEXT, PLEASE??? > –Terri & Harlan (Hurrah!)
HOWE MUCH brains does it take to beat a dog every twenty minutes for the same mistake you’ve tied it next to??? Got any criticism of the FACTS as I present them???
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." Tell us HOWE the dog understands koehler coming back every twenty minutes to punish him again for the same mistake he’s tied him up next to, to housetrain him??? HOWE do koehler KNOWS the dog don’t think he’s coming back to beat him every twenty minutes for the same mistake, just because you’re mad at him, instead of just TRAINING him??? See what I mean, DUMMY? You can’t justify that. Tell us HOWE the dog knows he shouldn’t be barking? That is, until the beatings take effect, after ENOUGH lessons? Tell us HOWE COME you think dogs might want to take a big chunk out of an abusive Thug who beats him every twenty minutes for crappin on the floor in a room you’ve restricted him to for this purpose, and then tied him next to a forced accident? And when koehler OCCASIONALLY find a dog who objects to his training, why does he HANG the dog, instead of calm them down and teach them there’s nothing to be afraid of??? That’s the only question ANYONE of you CAN answer, DUMMY. The answer is OBVIOUS. koehler trainers are DOG ABUSING COWARDS. When you’re done with the above, maybe you can give some defense for the dog abuse the and lies below FROM OUR Gang Of Thugs members??? Don’t miss the "GOOD KOEHLER TRAINING" after our rpdb abusers. Yours for freedom of information, Jerry "Freedom Of Information Act, Box10210 Pueblo, Colorado," Howe. Most of our rpdb regulars are devout koehler trainers. Here are koehler’s "solutions" for barking and housetraining, and ENDORSEMENTS of koehler’s methods by our Gang Members. Here’s some good training tips from the same source cindy moore uses. Koehler on correcting the Barking Dog Thunder through the door or gate, snatch up the belt that you’ve conveniently placed, and descend on him. He’ll have no chance to dodge if you grab the line and reel him in until his front feet are raised off the floor or, if he’s a big dog, until you’ve snubbed him up with a hitch on something (ceiling hook, rafters, tree limb, door, or even over your shoulder, if you know HOWE. j.h.) While he’s held in close, lay the strap vigorously against his thighs. Keep pouring it on him until he thinks it’s the bitter end. A real whaling now may cut down somewhat on the number of repeat performances that will be necessary. When you’re finished and the dog is convinced that he is, put him on a long down to think things over while you catch your breath. After fifteen or twenty minutes, release him from the stay and leave the area again." Koehler on correcting the housebreaking backslider. "If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they’re winning and will continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he’s made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing. (Dogs are REALLY stupid. J.H.) In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him." lyinglynn writes: > For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and > pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it. > When he barks, use the line for a correction.
A CORRECTION? You’re going to JERK and CHOKE this new foster dog out of being AFRAID… that’s CORRECTION? lyinlynn says: "I LOVE KOEHLER," and in the next breath denies being a ‘koehler trainer.’ Is that because she ALSO shocks dogs, and koehler never had a shock collar? Pity that he was born too late to benefit from such a wondrous teaching tool, ISN’T it??? (MORE good KOEHLER training below, AFTER lyingfrosty dahl) Amy lyingfrosty dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article (SHE’D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU DON’T READ IT!), there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears (INDEED, SHE PINCHES THEM WITH SPIKES). "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. I would never slap a dog (SHE TEACHES PEOPLE TO BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM). I would never advise anyone to slap a dog (SHE’S A PROVEN LIAR AND DOG ABUSER, do you expect her to ADMIT THE TRUTH???). I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, according to lyinglynn and avrama…. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in" With your hand on the collar and ear, say, ‘fetch.’ Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear. Gotta LOVE koehler. dahl makes koheler look like St. Francis. Our professor of behavior Wisc. U., lyingdoc dermer endorses koehler. (He said: "I punish dog’s behavior, NOT the dog." You gonna believe THAT CRAP, PEOPLE???) ron likes to use the heavy belt on his dogs "Read for koehler for content" Mark Shaw, Sadist, rpdb regular. "I LOVE KOHELER" lyinglynn, pathological liar, noted dog abuser. "There’s much wisdom in koehler," deana pace. (Her dogs run away from home.) "Read koehler," lyingdogDUMMY. (koehler is all he understands.) "Read koehler, cindymorons k-9 web faq’s page," ludwig smith. "Don’t let him do that, read cindymooreon’s web page," boob maida. "I’m not a koehler trainer," cindymoron, lyinglynn, lyingfrosty dahl. But they spout koehler’s methods. They don’t consider themselves koehler trainers because they shock, twist and pinch ears and toes, and BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS to MOTIVATE them. And now for a little MOORE good koehler training: BARKING, WHINING, HOWLING, YODELING, SCREAMING, AND WAILING We’ll begin with the easiest kind of vocalist to correct: the one that charges gates, fences, doors, and windows, barking furiously at familiar or imaginary people and objects. A few clusters of BBs from a good slingshot, in conjunction with the light line and plenty of temptations, will cause such a dog to use his mind rather than his mouth. But you won’t make the permanent impression unless you supply dozens of opportunities for him to exercise the control he thus acquires. Make sure these opportunities don’t always come at the same time of the day, else he may learn to observe the "quiet hour" and pursue his old routines at other times. With the help of the light line, it will be easy to follow the BBs with a long … read more »
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> > I agree, I sometimes post to this board, and Jerrys posts always > seem long winded and off topic. Sometimes I can’t figure out what he > is trying to say. > Here, I can help you out. What Jerry is trying to say is: > "Hi. My head is made entirely of baloney. I had Jello today." > HTH! > –Terri & Harlan (Universal Translator provided by HarCo Industries)
Tell us again that the ‘BEATING DOGS WITH STICKS THING ARE LIES I MADE UP.’ Got any criticism of the FACTS as I present them???
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." Tell us HOWE the dog understands koehler coming back every twenty minutes to BEAT THE DOG AGAIN for the same mistake he’s tied him up next to, to housetrain him??? HOWE do koehler KNOWS the dog don’t think he’s coming back to beat him every twenty minutes for the same mistake, just because you’re mad at him, instead of just TRAINING him??? See what I mean, DUMMY? You can’t justify that. Tell us HOWE the dog knows he shouldn’t be barking? That is, until the beatings take effect, after ENOUGH lessons? Tell us HOWE COME you think dogs might want to take a big chunk out of an abusive Thug who beats him every twenty minutes for crappin on the floor in a room you’ve restricted him to for this purpose, and then tied him next to a forced accident? And when koehler OCCASIONALLY find a dog who objects to his training, why does he HANG the dog, instead of calm them down and teach them there’s nothing to be afraid of??? That’s the only question ANYONE of you CAN answer, DUMMY. The answer is OBVIOUS. koehler trainers are DOG ABUSING COWARDS. When you’re done with the above, maybe you can give some defense for the dog abuse the and lies below FROM OUR Gang Of Thugs members??? Don’t miss the "GOOD KOEHLER TRAINING" after our rpdb abusers. Yours for freedom of information, Jerry "Freedom Of Information Act, Box10210 Pueblo, Colorado," Howe. Most of our rpdb regulars are devout koehler trainers. Here are koehler’s "solutions" for barking and housetraining, and ENDORSEMENTS of koehler’s methods by our Gang Members. Here’s some good training tips from the same source cindy moore uses. Koehler on correcting the Barking Dog Thunder through the door or gate, snatch up the belt that you’ve conveniently placed, and descend on him. He’ll have no chance to dodge if you grab the line and reel him in until his front feet are raised off the floor or, if he’s a big dog, until you’ve snubbed him up with a hitch on something (ceiling hook, rafters, tree limb, door, or even over your shoulder, if you know HOWE. j.h.) While he’s held in close, lay the strap vigorously against his thighs. Keep pouring it on him until he thinks it’s the bitter end. A real whaling now may cut down somewhat on the number of repeat performances that will be necessary. When you’re finished and the dog is convinced that he is, put him on a long down to think things over while you catch your breath. After fifteen or twenty minutes, release him from the stay and leave the area again." Koehler on correcting the housebreaking backslider. "If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they’re winning and will continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he’s made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing. (Dogs are REALLY stupid. J.H.) In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him." lyinglynn writes: > For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and > pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it. > When he barks, use the line for a correction.
A CORRECTION? You’re going to JERK and CHOKE this new foster dog out of being AFRAID… that’s CORRECTION? lyinlynn says: "I LOVE KOEHLER," and in the next breath denies being a ‘koehler trainer.’ Is that because she ALSO shocks dogs, and koehler never had a shock collar? Pity that he was born too late to benefit from such a wondrous teaching tool, ISN’T it??? (MORE good KOEHLER training below, AFTER lyingfrosty dahl) Amy lyingfrosty dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article (SHE’D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU DON’T READ IT!), there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears (INDEED, SHE PINCHES THEM WITH SPIKES). "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. I would never slap a dog (SHE TEACHES PEOPLE TO BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM). I would never advise anyone to slap a dog (SHE’S A PROVEN LIAR AND DOG ABUSER, do you expect her to ADMIT THE TRUTH???). I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, according to lyinglynn and avrama…. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in" With your hand on the collar and ear, say, ‘fetch.’ Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear. Gotta LOVE koehler. dahl makes koheler look like St. Francis. Our professor of behavior Wisc. U., lyingdoc dermer endorses koehler. (He said: "I punish dog’s behavior, NOT the dog." You gonna believe THAT CRAP, PEOPLE???) ron likes to use the heavy belt on his dogs "Read for koehler for content" Mark Shaw, Sadist, rpdb regular. "I LOVE KOHELER" lyinglynn, pathological liar, noted dog abuser. "There’s much wisdom in koehler," deana pace. (Her dogs run away from home.) "Read koehler," lyingdogDUMMY. (koehler is all he understands.) "Read koehler, cindymorons k-9 web faq’s page," ludwig smith. "Don’t let him do that, read cindymooreon’s web page," boob maida. "I’m not a koehler trainer," cindymoron, lyinglynn, lyingfrosty dahl. But they spout koehler’s methods. They don’t consider themselves koehler trainers because they shock, twist and pinch ears and toes, and BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS to MOTIVATE them. And now for a little MOORE good koehler training: BARKING, WHINING, HOWLING, YODELING, SCREAMING, AND WAILING We’ll begin with the easiest kind of vocalist to correct: the one that charges gates, fences, doors, and windows, barking furiously at familiar or imaginary people and objects. A few clusters of BBs from a good slingshot, in conjunction with the light line and plenty of temptations, will cause such a dog to use his mind rather than his mouth. But you won’t make the permanent impression unless you supply dozens of opportunities for him to exercise the control he thus acquires. Make sure these opportunities don’t always come at the same time of the day, else he may learn to observe the "quiet hour" and pursue his old routines at other times. With the help of the light line, it will be easy to follow the BBs with a long down to make sure he gets the most from his lesson. As was mentioned before, eliminating the senseless barking will not lessen the dog’s value as a watchdog but rather, as he grows more discriminating, increase it. The dog who vocalizes in bratty protest or lonesomeness because you’re gone constitutes a different problem. If it is impractical for someone to stay with him constantly (there are owners who cater to neurosis by employing dog sitters), you’ll have to heed the neighbors and the law and quiet the dog. This calls for a little ingenuity as well as a heavy hand. Attach a line to your dog’s collar, so your corrective effort doesn’t turn into a footrace around the house until you reach a stalemate under the bed. This use of the line in the correction will also serve to establish it as a reminder to be quiet as the dog drags it around when you’re not present. Next, equip yourself with a man’s leather belt or a strap heavy enough to give your particular dog a good tanning. Yup-we’re going to strike him. Real hard. Remember, you’re dealing with a dog who knows he should be quiet and neighbors who have legal rights to see that he does. Now leave, and let your fading footsteps tell the dog of your going. When you’ve walked to a point where he’ll think you’re gone but where you could hear any noises he might make, stop and listen. If you find a comfortable waiting place on a nearby porch, be careful not to talk or laugh. Tests show a dog’s hearing to be many times as sharp as yours. When the noise comes, instead of trying to sneak up to the door so you can barge in while he’s still barking, which is generally impossible, respond to his first sound with an emphatic bellow of "out," and keep on bellowing as you charge back to his area. Thunder … read more »
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errr… ummm… never thought about it like that. Now I’m kinda glad Jerry is here (even more so in my killfile). Joshua – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> He seems to be very disturbed from his posts. > Yes. He apparently has been/is hospitalized (we’re not sure of his > current status; he’s probably not, either). > He is calling everybody a liar and rambles on about nothing in all his > waste of bandwidth posts. > Well, his head is made entirely of baloney. I think you’ll agree this > accounts for much of his behavior. > Jerry do yourself a favour and get a life. > Sadly, this is all the life he has. > Look at it this way: The more time he spends raving here, the less > likely that he is actually interacting with any dogs. Which is a good > thing. > This can be made painless for the reader by employing a kill file. A > win-win situation! No one has to read what he writes, and no dogs are > subjected to his training, particularly his abusive protection training > methods! Yay! > –Terri & Harlan (Hurrah!) > — > What Would Robot Frank Do? > Before you buy.
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> My doctor said I could go home any time I felt ready to deal with dog > abusers in real life. He said I’m doing well, and that the psychosis > was only temporary
See that, who said a shock collar wouldn’t work, just hope your temperature didn’t SPIKE too much and cause you to shit all over yourself. Before you buy.
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He is very disturbed, of course. Just ignore him.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> He seems to be very disturbed from his posts. > He is calling everybody a liar and rambles on about nothing in all his waste > of bandwidth posts. > Jerry do yourself a favour and get a life.
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> errr… ummm… never thought about it like that. > Now I’m kinda glad Jerry is here (even more so in my killfile). > Joshua
Well, I always try to look on the bright side of things. That’s why so many in this newsgroup think of me as a little ray of sunshine. –Terri & Harlan — What Would Robot Frank Do? Before you buy.
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Yes. Just ignore me. It ain’t gonna happen. I’ve blown the cover on all our Gang Of Thugs dog abusers. Jerry.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> He is very disturbed, of course. Just ignore him. > He seems to be very disturbed from his posts. > He is calling everybody a liar and rambles on about nothing in all his > waste > of bandwidth posts. > Jerry do yourself a favour and get a life.
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> I’ve blown all our Gang Of Thugs. Jerry.
Before you buy.
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>> I’ve blown all our Gang Of Thugs. Jerry.
Hey, he missed me, too, Blackdogs! Damn! Is there a line forming somewhere? Inquiring minds want to know! :>) — Dogman http://www.i1.net/~dogman George Aloysius Spangenberg 286 Highway C St. Peters, MO Visitors welcome.
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Just go the back of the Conga line, and boogaloo on outta here with the rest of your dog abusing friends. Jerry. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> I’ve blown all our Gang Of Thugs. Jerry. > Hey, he missed me, too, Blackdogs! > Damn! > Is there a line forming somewhere? > Inquiring minds want to know! > :>) > — > Dogman > http://www.i1.net/~dogman > George Aloysius Spangenberg > 286 Highway C > St. Peters, MO > Visitors welcome.
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>Just go the back of the Conga line, and boogaloo on outta here with the >rest of your dog abusing friends. Jerry.
Yeah…make me, little man. PS: Where does the line form now? I have a bunch of friends that you also must have missed on your first blow-around. :>) > >> I’ve blown all our Gang Of Thugs. Jerry. > Hey, he missed me, too, Blackdogs! > Damn! > Is there a line forming somewhere? > Inquiring minds want to know!
[...] — Dogman http://www.i1.net/~dogman Vernon Hannibal Barnhart #20 Briar Patch Rd. Defiance, MO Visitors welcome.
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> Just go the back of the Conga line
Wow you got a big line waiting for you, your knees must be sore. Before you buy.
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> > errr… ummm… never thought about it like that. > Now I’m kinda glad Jerry is here (even more so in my killfile). > Joshua > Well, I always try to look on the bright side of things. That’s why so > many in this newsgroup think of me as a little ray of sunshine. > –Terri & Harlan
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." Koehler on correcting the Barking Dog Thunder through the door or gate, snatch up the belt that you’ve conveniently placed, and descend on him. He’ll have no chance to dodge if you grab the line and reel him in until his front feet are raised off the floor or, if he’s a big dog, until you’ve snubbed him up with a hitch on something (ceiling hook, rafters, tree limb, door, or even over your shoulder, if you know HOWE. j.h.) While he’s held in close, lay the strap vigorously against his thighs. Keep pouring it on him until he thinks it’s the bitter end. A real whaling now may cut down somewhat on the number of repeat performances that will be necessary. When you’re finished and the dog is convinced that he is, put him on a long down to think things over while you catch your breath. After fifteen or twenty minutes, release him from the stay and leave the area again." Koehler on correcting the housebreaking backslider. "If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they’re winning and will continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he’s made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing. (Dogs are REALLY stupid. J.H.) In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him." (MORE good KOEHLER training below, AFTER lyingfrosty dahl) Amy lyingfrosty dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article (SHE’D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU DON’T READ IT!), there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears (INDEED, SHE PINCHES THEM WITH SPIKES). "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. I would never slap a dog (SHE TEACHES PEOPLE TO BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM). I would never advise anyone to slap a dog (SHE’S A PROVEN LIAR AND DOG ABUSER, do you expect her to ADMIT THE TRUTH???). I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, according to lyinglynn and avrama…. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in" With your hand on the collar and ear, say, ‘fetch.’ Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear. Gotta LOVE koehler. dahl makes koheler look like St. Francis. Our professor of behavior Wisc. U., lyingdoc dermer endorses koehler. (He said: "I punish dog’s behavior, NOT the dog." You gonna believe THAT CRAP, PEOPLE???) ron likes to use the heavy belt on his dogs "Read for koehler for content" Mark Shaw, Sadist, rpdb regular. "I LOVE KOHELER" lyinglynn, pathological liar, noted dog abuser. "There’s much wisdom in koehler," deana pace. (Her dogs run away from home.) "Read koehler," lyingdogDUMMY. (koehler is all he understands.) "Read koehler, cindymorons k-9 web faq’s page," ludwig smith. "Don’t let him do that, read cindymooreon’s web page," boob maida. "I’m not a koehler trainer," cindymoron, lyinglynn, lyingfrosty dahl. But they spout koehler’s methods. They don’t consider themselves koehler trainers because they shock, twist and pinch ears and toes, and BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS to MOTIVATE them. BARKING, WHINING, HOWLING, YODELING, SCREAMING, AND WAILING We’ll begin with the easiest kind of vocalist to correct: the one that charges gates, fences, doors, and windows, barking furiously at familiar or imaginary people and objects. A few clusters of BBs from a good slingshot, in conjunction with the light line and plenty of temptations, will cause such a dog to use his mind rather than his mouth. But you won’t make the permanent impression unless you supply dozens of opportunities for him to exercise the control he thus acquires. Make sure these opportunities don’t always come at the same time of the day, else he may learn to observe the "quiet hour" and pursue his old routines at other times. With the help of the light line, it will be easy to follow the BBs with a long down to make sure he gets the most from his lesson. As was mentioned before, eliminating the senseless barking will not lessen the dog’s value as a watchdog but rather, as he grows more discriminating, increase it. The dog who vocalizes in bratty protest or lonesomeness because you’re gone constitutes a different problem. If it is impractical for someone to stay with him constantly (there are owners who cater to neurosis by employing dog sitters), you’ll have to heed the neighbors and the law and quiet the dog. This calls for a little ingenuity as well as a heavy hand. Attach a line to your dog’s collar, so your corrective effort doesn’t turn into a footrace around the house until you reach a stalemate under the bed. This use of the line in the correction will also serve to establish it as a reminder to be quiet as the dog drags it around when you’re not present. Next, equip yourself with a man’s leather belt or a strap heavy enough to give your particular dog a good tanning. Yup-we’re going to strike him. Real hard. Remember, you’re dealing with a dog who knows he should be quiet and neighbors who have legal rights to see that he does. Now leave, and let your fading footsteps tell the dog of your going. When you’ve walked to a point where he’ll think you’re gone but where you could hear any noises he might make, stop and listen. If you find a comfortable waiting place on a nearby porch, be careful not to talk or laugh. Tests show a dog’s hearing to be many times as sharp as yours. When the noise comes, instead of trying to sneak up to the door so you can barge in while he’s still barking, which is generally impossible, respond to his first sound with an emphatic bellow of "out," and keep on bellowing as you charge back to his area. Thunder through the door or gate, snatch up the belt that you’ve conveniently placed, and descend on him. He’ll have no chance to dodge if you grab the line and reel him in until his front feet are raised off the floor or, if he’s a big dog, until you’ve snubbed him up with a hitch on something. While he’s held in close, lay the strap vigorously against his thighs. Keep pouring it on him until he thinks it’s the bitter end. A real whaling now may cut down somewhat on the number of repeat performances that will be necessary. When you’re finished and the dog is convinced that he is, put him on a long down to think things over while you catch your breath. After fifteen or twenty minutes, release him from the stay and leave the area again. So that you won’t feel remorseful, reflect on the truth that a great percentage of the barkers who are given away to "good homes" end up in the kindly black box with the sweet smell. Personally, I’ve always felt that it’s even better to spank children, even if they "cry out," than to "put them to sleep." You might have a long wait on that comfortable porch before your dog starts broadcasting again. When he does, let your long range bellow tie the consequent correction to his first sound and repeat the spanking, if anything emphasizing it a bit more. It might be necessary to spend a Saturday or another day off so that you’ll have time to follow through sufficiently. When you have a full day, you will be able to convince him each yelp will have a bad consequence, and the consistency will make your job easier. If he gets away with his concert part of the time, he’ll be apt to gamble on your inconsistency. After a half dozen corrections, "the reason and the correction" will be tied in close enough association so that you can move in on him without the preliminary bellowing of "out." From then on, it’s just a case of laying for the dog and supplying enough bad consequences of his noise so he’ll no longer feel like gambling. Occasionally, there is a dog who seems to sense that you’re hiding nearby and will utter no sound. He also seems to sense when you have really gone away, at least according to the neighbors. Maybe his sensing actually amounts to close observation. He could be watching and listening for the signs of your actual going. Make a convincing operation of leaving, even if it requires changing clothes … read more »
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Hello billbob,
> He seems to be very disturbed from his posts.
You are a Seer? A Mystic? Perhaps just an ordinary human being who’se been struck by enlightenment? Could it be that you’re just an ordinary rpdb newbie??? At worst, your just and ordinary man who can READ. Any ordinary reader should be able to see I’m VERY disturbed by the commonly accepted methods of abuse taught by our most "respected experts" here. > He is calling everybody a liar
A spad is a spade, and I’ve got PROOF below. READ IT! > and rambles on about nothing in all his waste of bandwidth posts.
NOTHING? You call OUR "expert trainers" BEATING DOGS WITH STICKS, NOTHING??? Ah, ha! You’re just a buffoon who obviously hasn’t read the posts, OR YOU’RE ONE OF THEM! Otherwise, you’d KNOW the content of those posts are DIRECT QUOTS from our renowned Gang Of Thugs koehler trainers and freestyle DOG ABUSERS! > Jerry do yourself a favour and get a life.
Do yourself a favor, and either READ my posts, or TAKE ISSUE with their CONTENT. Got any criticism of the FACTS as I present them??? Tell us HOWE the dog understands koehler coming back every twenty minutes to punish him again for the same mistake he’s tied him up next to, to housetrain him??? HOWE doES koehler KNOW the dog don’t think he’s coming back to beat him every twenty minutes for the same mistake, just because you’re mad at him, instead of just TRAINING him??? See what I mean, DUMMY? You can’t justify that. Tell us HOWE the dog knows he shouldn’t be barking? That is, until the beatings take effect, after ENOUGH lessons? Tell us HOWE COME you think dogs might want to take a big chunk out of an abusive Thug who beats him every twenty minutes for crappin on the floor in a room you’ve restricted him to for this purpose, and then tied him next to a forced accident? And when koehler OCCASIONALLY find a dog who objects to his training, why does he HANG the dog, instead of calm them down and teach them there’s nothing to be afraid of??? That’s the only question ANYONE of you CAN answer, DUMMY. The answer is OBVIOUS. koehler trainers are DOG ABUSING COWARDS. When you’re done with the above, maybe you can give some defense for the dog abuse the and lies below FROM OUR Gang Of Thugs members??? Don’t miss the "GOOD KOEHLER TRAINING" below… Your pal, Jerry. Yours for freedom of information, Jerry "Freedom Of Information Act, Box10210 Pueblo, Colorado," Howe. lyinglynn writes: > For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and > pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it. > When he barks, use the line for a correction.
A CORRECTION? You’re going to JERK and CHOKE this new foster dog out of being AFRAID… that’s CORRECTION? lyinlynn says: "I LOVE KOEHLER," and in the next breath denies being a ‘koehler trainer.’ Is that because she ALSO shocks dogs, and koehler never had a shock collar? Pity that he was born too late to benefit from such a wondrous teaching tool, ISN’T it??? Most of our rpdb regulars are devout koehler trainers. Here are koehler’s "solutions" for barking and housetraining, and ENDORSEMENTS of koehler’s methods by our Gang Members. Here’s some good training tips from the same source cindy moore uses.
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." Koehler on correcting the Barking Dog Thunder through the door or gate, snatch up the belt that you’ve conveniently placed, and descend on him. He’ll have no chance to dodge if you grab the line and reel him in until his front feet are raised off the floor or, if he’s a big dog, until you’ve snubbed him up with a hitch on something (ceiling hook, rafters, tree limb, door, or even over your shoulder, if you know HOWE. j.h.) While he’s held in close, lay the strap vigorously against his thighs. Keep pouring it on him until he thinks it’s the bitter end. A real whaling now may cut down somewhat on the number of repeat performances that will be necessary. When you’re finished and the dog is convinced that he is, put him on a long down to think things over while you catch your breath. After fifteen or twenty minutes, release him from the stay and leave the area again." Koehler on correcting the housebreaking backslider. "If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they’re winning and will continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he’s made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing. (Dogs are REALLY stupid. J.H.) In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the light spanking that some owners seem to think is adequate punishment. It will be better for your dog, as well as the house, if you really pour it on him." (MORE good KOEHLER training below, AFTER lyingfrosty dahl) Amy lyingfrosty dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article (SHE’D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU DON’T READ IT!), there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears (INDEED, SHE PINCHES THEM WITH SPIKES). "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. I would never slap a dog (SHE TEACHES PEOPLE TO BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM). I would never advise anyone to slap a dog (SHE’S A PROVEN LIAR AND DOG ABUSER, do you expect her to ADMIT THE TRUTH???). I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, according to lyinglynn and avrama…. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in" With your hand on the collar and ear, say, ‘fetch.’ Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear. Gotta LOVE koehler. dahl makes koheler look like St. Francis. Our professor of behavior Wisc. U., lyingdoc dermer endorses koehler. (He said: "I punish dog’s behavior, NOT the dog." You gonna believe THAT CRAP, PEOPLE???) ron likes to use the heavy belt on his dogs "Read for koehler for content" Mark Shaw, Sadist, rpdb regular. "I LOVE KOHELER" lyinglynn, pathological liar, noted dog abuser. "There’s much wisdom in koehler," deana pace. (Her dogs run away from home.) "Read koehler," lyingdogDUMMY. (koehler is all he understands.) "Read koehler, cindymorons k-9 web faq’s page," ludwig smith. "Don’t let him do that, read cindymooreon’s web page," boob maida. "I’m not a koehler trainer," cindymoron, lyinglynn, lyingfrosty dahl. But they spout koehler’s methods. They don’t consider themselves koehler trainers because they shock, twist and pinch ears and toes, and BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS to MOTIVATE them. And now for a little MOORE good koehler training: BARKING, WHINING, HOWLING, YODELING, SCREAMING, AND WAILING We’ll begin with the easiest kind of vocalist to correct: the one that charges gates, fences, doors, and windows, barking furiously at familiar or imaginary people and objects. A few clusters of BBs from a good slingshot, in conjunction with the light line and plenty of temptations, will cause such a dog to use his mind rather than his mouth. But you won’t make the permanent impression unless you supply dozens of opportunities for him to exercise the control he thus acquires. Make sure these opportunities don’t always come at the same time of the day, else he may learn to observe the "quiet hour" and pursue his old routines at other times. With the help of the light line, it will be easy to follow the BBs with a long down to make sure he gets the most from his lesson. As was mentioned before, eliminating the senseless barking will not lessen the dog’s value as a watchdog but rather, as he grows more discriminating, increase it. The dog who vocalizes in bratty protest or lonesomeness because you’re gone constitutes a different problem. If it is impractical for someone to stay with him constantly (there are owners who cater to neurosis by employing dog sitters), you’ll have to heed the neighbors and the law and quiet the dog. This calls for a little ingenuity as well as a heavy hand. Attach a line to your dog’s collar, so your corrective effort doesn’t turn into a footrace around the house until you reach a stalemate under the bed. This use of the line in the correction will also serve to establish it as a reminder to be quiet as the dog drags it around when you’re not present. Next, equip yourself with a man’s leather belt or a strap heavy enough to give your particular dog a good tanning. Yup-we’re going to strike him. Real hard. Remember, you’re dealing with a dog who knows he should be quiet and neighbors who have legal rights to see that he does. Now leave, and let your fading footsteps tell the dog of your going. When you’ve walked to a point where he’ll think you’re gone but where you could hear … read more »
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> Hello billbob, > At worst, your just and ordinary man who can READ. Any ordinary reader > should be able to see I’m VERY disturbed by
By looking here http://home.i1.net/~dogman//jerry.html Before you buy.
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Also, when we first adopted Princess she wet whenever she got excited or whenever my husband (who is very, very gentle) expressed any kind of disapproval to her. I think she may view him as the alpha pack leader ???? We seem to have gotten past this problem, but now lately she has been getting- how shall I say it?- rather frisky on his leg when she gets excited. She’s spayed and I’ve never heard of a female dog doing that. What is she expressing? My husband and I cannot decide if it’s a submissive behavior or a dominant behavior, but it’s certainly embarrassing…. Any explanations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ~Marie 
The easiest way to deal with it is to teach your dog that it is not acceptable. Tell her OFF when she starts, take yourself away from her and ignore her totally. When she is sitting nicely, then pet her. You can also teach her to sit politely for petting. Dogstar716 Come see Gunnars Life: http://hometown.aol.com/dogstar716/index.html "AKC papers do not mean you are getting a quality dog. They are merely a birth certificate. Even puppy mill pet shop pups have AKC papers" – Bob Maida