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Sorry about your loss. obvisously the jerks here have never heard of country living. yeah we have cars in the country, but we also have farm dogs that perform a daily function, whether it be herding the cows or keeping the varmits away. i have 6 dogs and they run free on my property,  I trained them to the property by walking th property line with them every. we however just lost one of our dogs. she was a Dobbie named cinn, she died on a stormy night, couldnt see or hear any more. she was 15 yrs okd and never in her life did she step one foot off the property. see it’s all in training and not harrassing some one for asking a question.  think back to your first pet, how long did it really live!!!!! norma of SABERSAYS training advice.

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>[...] >This is a great place to get differing views on dog behavior (and human >behavior along the way!) and dog training. >This is NOT a great place to find an expert.   >Well, of course, it is, MDM, but you must at least know how to >recognize one, too, and it’s obvious that you don’t.

I suspect that MDM knows enough to recognize that "you ain’t it." That will serve him well. >If you want an expert, interview people in you own area (or ask people here >for leads in your area) >[...] >And if you don’t know how to recognize one, you’ll be no better off >than you are right here.

Agree completely.   Robert

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Settle down big boy. Some people come here in desperate need of help or are seeking education about dogs where previously they had none (education that is).  Desperate or uneducated people are often quick to fall into a false sense of security by someone claiming to be an expert. My advice to the poster was in that vein.  I also said or inferred (or at least meant to since I normally do) that there are many competent people posting here with competent advice.  I do not think, however, that substantive opinions can be all that insightful with only the written word as a guide.  Serious problems need in person attention and I encouraged the poster to find that, with the help of the folks here, I might add.   Sorry if I hurt anyone’s precious feelings, but expert is not a word I use carelessly.  As you say, give me someone here that can "walk the walk" in a situation other than behind their keyboard and then we’ll talk about who and what constitutes and expert.  Or, as they say down here, "the bullshit stops when the tailgate drops". As an aside, I have visited your website and was extremely impressed.  I happen to put you in the category of competent people here and am disappointed that you spend most of your time quarreling instead of offering out dog behavior and training advice.  Oh well. Lastly, you know nothing about me, so if you want to put me down or pick a fight, do your homework first.  If you were just being a contrarian, so be it.  I hope my explanation helped. Mike.

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[...] >This is a great place to get differing views on dog behavior (and human >behavior along the way!) and dog training. >This is NOT a great place to find an expert.  

Well, of course, it is, MDM, but you must at least know how to recognize one, too, and it’s obvious that you don’t. >If you want an expert, interview people in you own area (or ask people here >for leads in your area)

[...] And if you don’t know how to recognize one, you’ll be no better off than you are right here. :>) — Dogman http://www.i1.net/~dogman Happy "Positive-Only" Dog Kennel Specializing in the Gentle Method. Training and breeding working retrievers in the most humane, time-proven, extremely effective, non-aggressive, positive-only methods, producing rock-solid healthy, happy, tail-wagging, face-licking, hard-working, well-mannered canine citizens for close to four decades, utilizing the most humane, time-proven, extremely effective, non-aggressive, positive-only training collars (e.g., the Barbara Woodhouse model), the most humane, time-proven, extremely effective, non-aggressive, positive-only longes (I make my own), the most humane, time-proven, extremely effective, non-aggressive, positive-only throw chains (instead of dangerous cans, disks, keys, books, rocks, etc.), and humane, time-proven, extremely effective, non-aggressive, positive-only e-collars (i.e., the Tri-tronics brand.  Period.).

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Derek- Sorry about your loss.  One of life’s sad and painful lessons. In regards to choosing a dog, visit the interactive dog selector at http//www.SelectSmart.com   As for good manners take note of the quiet breeds and smart brreds At SelectSmart.com in a section of articles by noted dog writers* called the "Experts Speak" author Cheryl S. Smith offers an excerpt from her book "The Trick Is In The Training" that you might find useful. Also at http://www.SelectSmart.com visit the dogs needing a good home at "Free Ads for Rescue Animals"–get a good pet and do a good thing. You lost one dog–here’s your chance to save one. -Curt Actually they write ABOUT dogs. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get another >one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned up or >chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be for >these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and not >run away and I want to keep it off of the road!  I want the dog to be good >mannered and easy to train.  What would be a good dog for these >wants/needs?   >    Also, what are some good methods to train dogs to be good mannered and >them to know the basic commands?  Is there any good internet sites that >would show this?  Also, what age should you really start trying to train >the dogs the most?  I know that there are a lot of questions here and any >help would be great!  Thank you! >Derek Young

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Sorry Derek – I really did think it was a troll because you sounded like you weren’t going to change anything to prevent another car accident to the next dog. Fence a portion of your yard and then good luck on your search. Remember that the person who hits your dog is also traumatized – if I hit a dog, I would feel horrible for a long time. And I used to live in the country and people drive like they are trying out for the next Indy 500. A dog doesn’t stand a chance.

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FAO SCHWARZ (sp?) in NYC, the world-famous toy store, has the perfect breed for Mr. Young.  It is stuffed, and remains where it is placed.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get another > one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned up or > chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be for > these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and not > run away and I want to keep it off of the road!  I want the dog to be good > mannered and easy to train.  What would be a good dog for these > wants/needs? > Also, what are some good methods to train dogs to be good mannered and > them to know the basic commands?  Is there any good internet sites that > would show this?  Also, what age should you really start trying to train > the dogs the most?  I know that there are a lot of questions here and any > help would be great!  Thank you! > Derek Young

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Derek, I’m sorry if you felt my response wasn’t very considerate,(it could have been much worse)..but the fact is, without changing some of the things that happened with your previous dog, all the love in the world isn’t going to keep a new dog safe. Lois E.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Again Doe, thank you for trying to tell me what to do, but at least being a > little bit considerate. > Derek > This is a learning place, but sometimes I wonder if newcomers wanting > help will > hesitate to ask for it if they are immediately come down on so hard.  I > am sure > Derek loves his dogs, but does not really know the dangers and the risks > you > take letting a dog run free.  I grew up on a farm so far from town that > our dogs > did run free for many, many years without any accidents.  When young and > newly > married I moved to a farm near town our first dog was hit by a car after > jumping > out of a ditch into the path of a car.  A family near town only recently > lost a > dog after it ran into the path of a car.  I learned a lesson.  We fenced > in a > large area.   I loved my dog the best I knew how at the time.  NOW I know > better…let’s not jump so quickly on someones feelings, whether they > love their > dog or not…..better yet educate them in a considerate way.  Doe. > > No Derek…..you DIDN’T treat it with all the love you had……if that > had > > been the case, you would have built a fence or some form of enclosure > so any > > time you weren’t there to directly supervise the dog, it would have > still > > been safely kept away from the road. THAT’S all the love you > have….when > > you love something to keep it safe, even when you aren’t looking at it. > > Lois E. > > > Why do I sound like a troll? I’m not.  I live in the country. > Animals get > > > hit by cars.  It’s not like I bought a dog on Monday, it got hit on > Monday > > > night and Tuesday I get another one.  I have had a dog for 6 years > and it > > > is a good dog, it even ‘looks both ways’ before crossing the road. I > then > > > got another one and after having it for a year and a half it got ran > over. > > >  It has been 8 months and I think I want to try again.  Sorry if I > > sound > > > rude or anything that you are making me out to be, but I’m honestly > not, I > > > treated that dog with every bit of love that I could, accidents > happen. > > > Derek > > > > >Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get > > another > > > > >one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be > penned > > up > > > or > > > > >chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would > be > > > for > > > > >these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house > and > > not > > > > >run away and I want to keep it off of the road! > > > > This sounds like a troll to me. If not, I would recommend you think > long > > > and > > > > hard about getting another dog to get hit by yet another car.

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    I can’t agree more with Tracy and what she had to say.  It is not cruel to keep your dog in a contained area.  If you don’t want to put up a stockade fence, you should consider an electric fence.  These can be above or below ground and the dog may have to wear a special collar that responds to the fence’s boundaries.  However, an enclosed fenced area is best.     Your dog also should definitely be neutered / spayed, vaccinated, and on heart worm preventive since it will be allowed to "roam free".  Were your past dogs on this regimen?? Do you plan on having this dog indoors with you at all?     I think you’ll have a hard time getting a responsible breeder or rescue group to allow you to adopt a pet from them given your situation and past history.  It seems like your heart may be in the right place, but that you are just not educated as to how to care for a dog responsibly.  It is not an easy job and is not one to be taken lightly.     Really think about why you want to get another dog.  I would think if you love your animals as much as you say you do, that you would do anything to keep them safe and from harming themselves or others.  You’re lucky that the person driving the car was not injured during this incident.  It is possible to lose control of a car after hitting a large animal and I don’t think you would want a lawsuit on your hands.  Please reconsider getting another dog for a while until you are ready to make a commitment in being a responsible pet owner.     These posts are merely our opinions and you can do with them what you want, but please at least consider what most people in the newsgroup have to say.  They are looking out for the animal’s best interests.

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Derek: Welcome to hell. This is a great place to get differing views on dog behavior (and human behavior along the way!) and dog training. This is NOT a great place to find an expert.  This is an online forum and any and all advice you hear will be based on either one’s own experience or their limited view of what situation you are in, but only to the extent of how you describe it. If you want an expert, interview people in you own area (or ask people here for leads in your area) that can come to you place and assess the situation in it’s totality.  THEN and only then will you get an expert opinion.  Until then, it is just an opinion. Good luck. Mike.

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Again Doe, thank you for trying to tell me what to do, but at least being a little bit considerate. Derek – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This is a learning place, but sometimes I wonder if newcomers wanting help will > hesitate to ask for it if they are immediately come down on so hard.  I am sure > Derek loves his dogs, but does not really know the dangers and the risks you > take letting a dog run free.  I grew up on a farm so far from town that our dogs > did run free for many, many years without any accidents.  When young and newly > married I moved to a farm near town our first dog was hit by a car after jumping > out of a ditch into the path of a car.  A family near town only recently lost a > dog after it ran into the path of a car.  I learned a lesson.  We fenced in a > large area.   I loved my dog the best I knew how at the time.  NOW I know > better…let’s not jump so quickly on someones feelings, whether they love their > dog or not…..better yet educate them in a considerate way.  Doe. > No Derek…..you DIDN’T treat it with all the love you had……if that had > been the case, you would have built a fence or some form of enclosure so any > time you weren’t there to directly supervise the dog, it would have still > been safely kept away from the road. THAT’S all the love you have….when > you love something to keep it safe, even when you aren’t looking at it. > Lois E. > > Why do I sound like a troll? I’m not.  I live in the country. Animals get > > hit by cars.  It’s not like I bought a dog on Monday, it got hit on Monday > > night and Tuesday I get another one.  I have had a dog for 6 years and it > > is a good dog, it even ‘looks both ways’ before crossing the road.  I then > > got another one and after having it for a year and a half it got ran over. > >  It has been 8 months and I think I want to try again.  Sorry if I > sound > > rude or anything that you are making me out to be, but I’m honestly not, I > > treated that dog with every bit of love that I could, accidents happen. > > Derek > > > >Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get > another > > > >one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned > up > > or > > > >chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be > > for > > > >these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and > not > > > >run away and I want to keep it off of the road! > > > This sounds like a troll to me. If not, I would recommend you think long > > and > > > hard about getting another dog to get hit by yet another car.

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> I am sure >Derek loves his dogs, but does not really know the dangers and the risks you >take letting a dog run free.

letting a dog run free – his dog was killed by a car. Sometimes the only way to learn a lesson seems to be the hard and final way. My husband never fails to close our side gate anymore.  It took a life to make him remember no-matter-what. Derek needs to understand that without appropriate confinement, this will happen again.  He seems unwilling to fence or confine in the house, rather he expects to make the dog responsible for staying on the property. Sorry, but that’s idealistic and will result in another dog’s death.  And he’d have only himself to blame – not the dog. Janet Boss<BR> Best Friends Dog Obedience<BR> "Nice Manners for the Family Pet"<BR> <BR> "Second-hand dogs AREN’T second-rate"<BR> This message automatically followed by Jerry Howe uttering his useful information: "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah"

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I am blaming myself for the loss!! I’m NOT blaming the dog.  I was just wondering if there was something that I could do BESIDES fencing that would help, evidently there’s not, GOSH.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am sure >Derek loves his dogs, but does not really know the dangers and the risks you >take letting a dog run free. of > letting a dog run free – his dog was killed by a car. > Sometimes the only way to learn a lesson seems to be the hard and final way. > My husband never fails to close our side gate anymore.  It took a life to make > him remember no-matter-what. > Derek needs to understand that without appropriate confinement, this will > happen again.  He seems unwilling to fence or confine in the house, rather he > expects to make the dog responsible for staying on the property. > Sorry, but that’s idealistic and will result in another dog’s death.  And he’d > have only himself to blame – not the dog. > Janet Boss<BR> > Best Friends Dog Obedience<BR> > "Nice Manners for the Family Pet"<BR> > <BR> > "Second-hand dogs AREN’T second-rate"<BR> > This message automatically followed by Jerry Howe uttering his useful > information: "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah"

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Tracy, that you for being about the only one on this group that didn’t bash me til all ends break loose.  I was considering getting a fence, but I thought to ask the ‘dog’ experts if there was anything else I could do that I wouldn’t need a fence.  Everyone’s treating me like I’m Satan! I’m sorry…. Derek – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Derek, I think what Tricia meant (correct me if I’m wrong, of course, > Tricia) was that while yes, accidents do happen, they are preventable. > Dogs do not have to run free in order to be happy dogs, and they should > not run free.  Your unfortunate experience is proof enough of that.  I > know fencing is very expensive, but can you fence a small portion of > your property so that your dog can be safe?  Many breeders would likely > be leery of placing one of their precious babes in your home because the > fate that has unfortunately befallen your dogs is entirely preventable, > though accidental.  I know the rescue group I work with would not think > your situation suitable, though you may well be the best dog dad on > Earth.  Even the best-trained, most consistently responsive, most > reliable off-lead dog on the planet can get run over by a car when > allowed to roam free, and I strongly recommend you reconsider bringing > another dog home unless you can fence at least a small portion of your > property.  I don’t think you want to go through that heartache again. > Tracy Landauer > Why do I sound like a troll? I’m not.  I live in the country.  Animals get > hit by cars.  It’s not like I bought a dog on Monday, it got hit on Monday > night and Tuesday I get another one.  I have had a dog for 6 years and it > is a good dog, it even ‘looks both ways’ before crossing the road.  I then > got another one and after having it for a year and a half it got ran over. >  It has been 8 months and I think I want to try again.  Sorry if I sound > rude or anything that you are making me out to be, but I’m honestly not, I > treated that dog with every bit of love that I could, accidents happen. > Derek > > >Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get another > > >one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned up > or > > >chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be > for > > >these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and not > > >run away and I want to keep it off of the road! > > This sounds like a troll to me. If not, I would recommend you think long > and > > hard about getting another dog to get hit by yet another car.

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.  Animals get > hit by cars.  It’s not like I bought a dog on Monday, it got hit on Monday > night and Tuesday I get another one.  I have had a dog for 6 years and it > is a good dog, it even ‘looks both ways’ before crossing the road.  I then > got another one and after having it for a year and a half it got ran over. I’m honestly not, I > treated that dog with every bit of love that I could, accidents happen.

Some accidents are waiting to happen, and your love obviously did not and does not include the notion of responsibility. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Derek > >Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get another > >one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned up > or > >chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be > for > >these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and not > >run away and I want to keep it off of the road! > This sounds like a troll to me. If not, I would recommend you think long > and > hard about getting another dog to get hit by yet another car.

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> Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get another > one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned up or > chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be for > these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and not > run away and I want to keep it off of the road!  I want the dog to be good > mannered and easy to train.  What would be a good dog for these > wants/needs?

The best dog for one that will be permitted to roam free, albeit you "want him to stick around the house" can be found at a major toy store in NYC whose name I have suddenly forgotten (it’s across the street from St. Patrick’s Cathedral on Fifth Avenue). They have stuffed dogs in a variety of breeds. Hasn’t it dawned on you that your behavior is the reason your dog was in a position to be run over? avrama & shomer

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Sorry to hear about your loss – here’s my $.02 on breeds and how to keep them safe: 1) Build a fenced in yard for your dog – no dog should run free while there are cars in America. 2) Find an obedience club or trainer in your area – dog training is something really learned best with hands-on instruction. 3) Go to the pound and pick out a nice dog that needs a home – there’s no specific breed that meets your requirements, so why not get a mutt? Good luck! -Shannon & Guinness — To reply, please remove the anti-spam from the address. Thank you.

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This is a learning place, but sometimes I wonder if newcomers wanting help will hesitate to ask for it if they are immediately come down on so hard.  I am sure Derek loves his dogs, but does not really know the dangers and the risks you take letting a dog run free.  I grew up on a farm so far from town that our dogs did run free for many, many years without any accidents.  When young and newly married I moved to a farm near town our first dog was hit by a car after jumping out of a ditch into the path of a car.  A family near town only recently lost a dog after it ran into the path of a car.  I learned a lesson.  We fenced in a large area.   I loved my dog the best I knew how at the time.  NOW I know better…let’s not jump so quickly on someones feelings, whether they love their dog or not…..better yet educate them in a considerate way.  Doe. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> No Derek…..you DIDN’T treat it with all the love you had……if that had > been the case, you would have built a fence or some form of enclosure so any > time you weren’t there to directly supervise the dog, it would have still > been safely kept away from the road. THAT’S all the love you have….when > you love something to keep it safe, even when you aren’t looking at it. > Lois E. > Why do I sound like a troll? I’m not.  I live in the country.  Animals get > hit by cars.  It’s not like I bought a dog on Monday, it got hit on Monday > night and Tuesday I get another one.  I have had a dog for 6 years and it > is a good dog, it even ‘looks both ways’ before crossing the road.  I then > got another one and after having it for a year and a half it got ran over. >  It has been 8 months and I think I want to try again.  Sorry if I > sound > rude or anything that you are making me out to be, but I’m honestly not, I > treated that dog with every bit of love that I could, accidents happen. > Derek > > >Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get > another > > >one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned > up > or > > >chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be > for > > >these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and > not > > >run away and I want to keep it off of the road! > > This sounds like a troll to me. If not, I would recommend you think long > and > > hard about getting another dog to get hit by yet another car.

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Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get another one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned up or chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be for these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and not run away and I want to keep it off of the road!  I want the dog to be good mannered and easy to train.  What would be a good dog for these wants/needs?           Also, what are some good methods to train dogs to be good mannered and them to know the basic commands?  Is there any good internet sites that would show this?  Also, what age should you really start trying to train the dogs the most?  I know that there are a lot of questions here and any help would be great!  Thank you! Derek Young

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>Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get another >one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned up or >chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be for >these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and not >run away and I want to keep it off of the road!

This sounds like a troll to me. If not, I would recommend you think long and hard about getting another dog to get hit by yet another car.

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Why do I sound like a troll? I’m not.  I live in the country.  Animals get hit by cars.  It’s not like I bought a dog on Monday, it got hit on Monday night and Tuesday I get another one.  I have had a dog for 6 years and it is a good dog, it even ‘looks both ways’ before crossing the road.  I then got another one and after having it for a year and a half it got ran over.  It has been 8 months and I think I want to try again.  Sorry if I sound rude or anything that you are making me out to be, but I’m honestly not, I treated that dog with every bit of love that I could, accidents happen. Derek – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get another >one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned up or >chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be for >these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and not >run away and I want to keep it off of the road! > This sounds like a troll to me. If not, I would recommend you think long and > hard about getting another dog to get hit by yet another car.

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No Derek…..you DIDN’T treat it with all the love you had……if that had been the case, you would have built a fence or some form of enclosure so any time you weren’t there to directly supervise the dog, it would have still been safely kept away from the road. THAT’S all the love you have….when you love something to keep it safe, even when you aren’t looking at it. Lois E.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Why do I sound like a troll? I’m not.  I live in the country.  Animals get > hit by cars.  It’s not like I bought a dog on Monday, it got hit on Monday > night and Tuesday I get another one.  I have had a dog for 6 years and it > is a good dog, it even ‘looks both ways’ before crossing the road.  I then > got another one and after having it for a year and a half it got ran over. >  It has been 8 months and I think I want to try again.  Sorry if I sound > rude or anything that you are making me out to be, but I’m honestly not, I > treated that dog with every bit of love that I could, accidents happen. > Derek > >Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get another > >one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned up > or > >chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be > for > >these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and not > >run away and I want to keep it off of the road! > This sounds like a troll to me. If not, I would recommend you think long > and > hard about getting another dog to get hit by yet another car.

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Derek, I think what Tricia meant (correct me if I’m wrong, of course, Tricia) was that while yes, accidents do happen, they are preventable. Dogs do not have to run free in order to be happy dogs, and they should not run free.  Your unfortunate experience is proof enough of that.  I know fencing is very expensive, but can you fence a small portion of your property so that your dog can be safe?  Many breeders would likely be leery of placing one of their precious babes in your home because the fate that has unfortunately befallen your dogs is entirely preventable, though accidental.  I know the rescue group I work with would not think your situation suitable, though you may well be the best dog dad on Earth.  Even the best-trained, most consistently responsive, most reliable off-lead dog on the planet can get run over by a car when allowed to roam free, and I strongly recommend you reconsider bringing another dog home unless you can fence at least a small portion of your property.  I don’t think you want to go through that heartache again. Tracy Landauer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Why do I sound like a troll? I’m not.  I live in the country.  Animals get > hit by cars.  It’s not like I bought a dog on Monday, it got hit on Monday > night and Tuesday I get another one.  I have had a dog for 6 years and it > is a good dog, it even ‘looks both ways’ before crossing the road.  I then > got another one and after having it for a year and a half it got ran over. >  It has been 8 months and I think I want to try again.  Sorry if I sound > rude or anything that you are making me out to be, but I’m honestly not, I > treated that dog with every bit of love that I could, accidents happen. > Derek > >Okay, my dog recently got hit by a car. :[ and am looking to get another > >one. I live in the country so most of the time the dog wont be penned up > or > >chained or anything.  I was just wondering what a good breed would be > for > >these needs.  Of course I want the dog to stick around the house and not > >run away and I want to keep it off of the road! > This sounds like a troll to me. If not, I would recommend you think long > and > hard about getting another dog to get hit by yet another car.

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