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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > Beware of Jerry Howe. > > There’s NEVER Been An Unsatisfied Doggy Do > > Right (and Kitty Will Too) Owner. > Baloney jer. > An unhappy purchaser of Jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review > at: > EdW > http://Petloss.com/inthenws.htm > Sorry ed, your "unhappy purchaser" has never brought his complaint to me or > asked me any questions. > As far as I’m concerned, a person who doesn’t tell me he’s having difficulty > and doesen’t ask for a refund, is a satisfied customer. My Doggy Do Right > (and Kitty Will Too) is 100% money back, satisfacton guaranteed, forever, > including paid return shipping… > NO COMPLAINTS, ed. > President Of Pet Rescue, Board Member Of The > Alliance For Care And Welfare Of Animals, Feral Cat Network, And AKC > Obedience & Agility Clubs" Says "I Would Not Recommend DDR (&KWT) If I Did > Not Believe In It."

Even more baloney jer. It looks like The Alliance for Care and Welfare of Animals is a fictitious organization created by yourself. The ONLY place "The Alliance for Care and Welfare of Animals" is mentioned on the entire Internet is on Jerry Howes DDR "testimonial" page. You have yet to prove me wrong about anything I have posted. Ball is still in your court jer. EdW http://Petloss.com

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(long, thoughtful, *thorough* analysis snipped) >I wouldn’t trust an organization that doesn’t list a >street address, a "business (as in finances)" phone number, >and the names of its officers.  I worked in the non profit >sector for many years.  Respectable organizations are not >cagey like that.

Just one thought, here.  Our rescue group lists a PO Box.  We do not list a street address for a couple reasons: we are a distributed organization and do not *have* an office, etc.  We use volunteers’ homes for our business, and volunteers do come and go over time.  That same PO Box means that the address remains the same througout personnel and organizational changes. We also deal with rescued dogs, and if a street address were available, dogs would be abandoned at that address.  So sometimes there are valid reasons for being cautious about revealing home addresses outside of the organization, particularly on the internet. Cheers, –Cindy —

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>Debary, FL.  Information in Debary, FL has no listing for >"Pet Action League."  No where on the site is there a street >address, nor is a board of directors listed.  Another

Just to mention:  Neither the Cocker Spaniel rescue group nor the Australian Cattle Dog group list a street address. Both organizations are run out of the homes of the various folks that work for them with someone designated to pick up any mail for them from the post office box that collects the mail on a periodic basis. just my $0.02 worth…. — "Linux renders ships                     http://www.berghold.net  NT renders ships useless…."          

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KERRRRCHHHINNNNGGG!!! Here’s your change. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Debary, FL.  Information in Debary, FL has no listing for >"Pet Action League."  No where on the site is there a street >address, nor is a board of directors listed.  Another > Just to mention:  Neither the Cocker Spaniel rescue group nor the > Australian Cattle Dog group list a street address. Both organizations > are run out of the homes of the various folks that work for them with > someone designated to pick up any mail for them from the post office > box that collects the mail on a periodic basis. > just my $0.02 worth…. > — > "Linux renders ships                     http://www.berghold.net >  NT renders ships useless…."

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Hi, I just got my new dog (a 5 month old Shar Pei) about 5 days ago.  His name is Miklo and he’s a great dog. The breeder mentioned that she had started working with him on a leash and that he would be use to one, which he is!  He does very well when it’s just him and I but when my son or anyone for that matter is around he pulls and tugs on it and trys following that person instead of me.  So my question is, is it better to train him on walks alone or can I bring my son along while trying to train him? Also when I take him from the front door to the back yard (about 20-25 feet) without a leash he stays right next to me, doesn’t even try running.  Is this because he’s so well trained or because he’s unfamiliar with his new surroundings?  He seems to be getting braver everyday and venturing a little bit further each day.  Could this be because he’s getting braver in his new surroundings or because I’m letting him get away with it and in a sense untraining him?  Is that possible? Thanks, Nancy

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Quote:  Could this be because he’s getting braver in his new surroundings or because I’m letting him get away with it and in a sense untraining him? Either is perfectly possible. Neither is desirable. Don’t let him get away with it. It’s *SO* much easier to prevent problems than to overcome them! Jane Webb  & Moonpie & Raisin Pie http://www.WebbWeave.com

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You can get all the information you need to handle and train your dog using non force, non confronatational, scientific and psychological methods, in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com The Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual is provided by the BIOSOUND Scientific Elves as an alternative to Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too). Your pal, Jerry "The Phony," Howe

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, I just got my new dog (a 5 month old Shar Pei) about 5 > days ago.  His name is Miklo and he’s a great dog. > The breeder mentioned that she had started working with him > on a leash and that he would be use to one, which he is!  He > does very well when it’s just him and I but when my son or > anyone for that matter is around he pulls and tugs on it and > trys following that person instead of me.  So my question > is, is it better to train him on walks alone or can I bring > my son along while trying to train him? > Also when I take him from the front door to the back yard > (about 20-25 feet) without a leash he stays right next to > me, doesn’t even try running.  Is this because he’s so well > trained or because he’s unfamiliar with his new > surroundings?  He seems to be getting braver everyday and > venturing a little bit further each day.  Could this be > because he’s getting braver in his new surroundings or > because I’m letting him get away with it and in a sense > untraining him?  Is that possible? > Thanks, > Nancy

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Nancy, Beware of Jerry Howe. Jerry Howe is only here to sell you his dubious $100 electronic training device. That is where the link he posts takes you. His "free training manual" offer is the bait for his underhanded "bait & switch" scam. (An unhappy purchaser of Jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review at: If Jerry were an honest person he would post a genuine link to the "free training  manual" & not try to scam every new person on the newsgroup. Unfortunately he refuses to do so and, as you can see by his posts, viciously attacks, slanders, and lies about anyone who disagrees with him in any way. As recently as 12/7, Jerry Howe encouraged a poster in this very newsgroup to: , & I quote, " P.S. Take a couple of Tylenol with cyaninde. " EdW http://Petloss.com/inthenws.htm

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> Nancy, > Beware of Jerry Howe

Here’s a quote from the koehler book you recommend: "If the punishment is not severe enough, some of these "backsliders" will think they’re winning and will continue to mess in the house. An indelible impression can sometimes be made by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration, then leaving him tied by the mess he’s made so you can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish him again for the same thing." Nice stuff, huh? Your words: "Your help is now needed to support this website. Since it began as a simple homepage in the Spring of 1993, Petloss.com has grown to become the most visited pet loss grief support site on the web. The hours required every day to maintain the website’s resources & services have escalated so dramatically in the last year that I finally had to make a choice between my regular job & the website. I have chosen the website.  To keep up the current level of support and continue to increase the website’s ability to help others, I recently gave up my job and made this website my full- time occupation. For this to work, I must ask for financial support from those of you who believe in this website’s mission and want to be a part of it. Your donations & the Rainbow Bridge Prints are now my only source of income. Please help with any amount you can, payable to "Petloss.com". All donations are greatly appreciated." Send to: Petloss.com Ed Williams P. O. Box 517 Roseland, NJ 07608 Any donation of $50 or more will receive a beautiful laminated Rainbow Bridge Print as my way of saying "Thanks". And THANK YOU ed, we APPRECIATE  ALL your HELP. > You are a pathetic liar jer. > For all I know Koehler’s might be the best > training book ever.

See? You don’t know much. It’s the best if you don’t care about wheather your dog lives through the training. He hangs dogs. >  A huge number of dog owners do believe so.

INDEED. Ask lyingdogDUMMY. Ask lying"I LOVE KOEHLER"lynn. Ask lyingfrosty dahl. Ask lyingdoc dermer. Ask richardson. Ask webbweave. Ask dena pace. Ask cindymooreon. Ask blackman. Ask ludwig. Ask boob maida. Oh, forget boob, he won’t talk anymoore than you will, he don’t want to get caught lying. Seems I’m surrounded by koehler trainers here. > Nevertheless I personally have NEVER > recommended ANY training book.

That’s good. Because all your pals like to HURT dogs to train them, and I wouldn’t want to think YOU’D be glad to see folks jerking and choking and hurting and killing their dogs because they’ve been made vicious from all the jerking and choking they get in training. "FRIGHTENING," is HOWE another poster reported, on reading koehler. What kind of work do you do, ed? You run a "cyberchapel," for DEAD DOGS. That’s why you recommend koehler. It’s GOOD for business. You’re a beggar. You chisel donations out of grieving people and sell memorial crap. > <sarcasm off>

My students are decent to their dogs in LIFE > EdW > http://Petloss.com

Got some surprises coming for you for the  New Year, good buddy. Your words, silvertonguEd: "jer, You really ARE an obnoxious, petty, self- important, lying piece of smegma!" EdW

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Beware of Jerry Howe. Jerry Howe is only here to sell you his dubious $100 electronic training device. That is where the link he posts takes you. His "free training manual" offer is the bait for his underhanded "bait & switch" scam. (An unhappy purchaser of Jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review at: If Jerry were an honest person he would post a genuine link to the "free training  manual" & not try to scam every new person on the newsgroup. Unfortunately he refuses to do so and, as you can see by his posts, viciously attacks, slanders, and lies about anyone who disagrees with him in any way. As recently as 12/7, Jerry Howe encouraged a poster in this very newsgroup to: , & I quote, " P.S. Take a couple of Tylenol with cyaninde. " EdW http://Petloss.com/inthenws.htm

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> Beware of Jerry Howe.

There’s NEVER Been An Unsatisfied Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too) Owner. Here are THREE testimonials, and there’s hundreds of others: Doggy Do Right and Jerry Howe: I do have a Doggy Do Right and have had it for about one year. It truly does work – at least on my Dobe, Chelsea. Chelsea was the unhappy recipient of several failed attempts at obedience training, both in a "class" environment and with a personal trainer. She is very high spirited and strong and, unfortunately, spoiled, since we are an older couple who doted on our dog. We were lucky enough to find Jerry Howe and to not only buy a Doggy Do Right, but to also have him personally work with Chelsea. His methods are wonderful and effective. Chelsea is not a dog that you will bully, and I wouldn’t dream of hurting her. After Jerry spent time with her, she no longer jumped on furniture, ate food off the counter, and pulled me incessantly on the leash. She is calmer and we are all happier. Well, it is a very long story and I won’t bore you will the details, but suffice it to say that Jerry Howe saved the day for our dog and for us. Marge Hoffman A poster with pit bulls and a feral cat rescue writes: Hi Jerry, I do think your product is a valuable tool in helping with aggression and other behavior problems. I am in Feral Cat Network (we spray and neuter approximately 100 feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC dog obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club, president of Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for Care and Welfare of Animals (on the board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County Manager, head of animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.). I would not recommend your product if I did not believe in it. Well, we have been running Doggy Do Right for a while (3 weeks) now and would appear that it is working. We are still on the lowest setting, but my cat aggressive dog is now much calmer with the little fur balls getting near her. Not perfect, but much improved! I do think that you need a more universal name than Doggy Do Right, (hence: and Kitty Will To) as it appears to have drastically cut the spraying problem down that we have with our crowded cat situation. I am going to send an e-mail to Domesti-Cats club, Feral Cat Network and Space Cats Club as a lot of the members have some of the same problems with their cats. It has also lessened the number of nightly cat fights. Thanks Elaine. Hi Jerry, Lowest setting to us is when the machine is on the least number of times during the day. We are going to try putting it on the next setting and see if that will completely solve our problems. We are holding our breath at this point on the spraying and hoping that BIOSOUND continues to work. We will let you know. Yes, feel free to use my post. If you sell to people with cat spray problems though you might want to recommend that they do what we did. We went through the house with BACTerminator an enzyme product that eats the cat urine. We have used Bac T. for a long time and it usually only slows them down for a week or two, so I know it is the BIOSOUND that has created the success we are seeing right now. We are resigned to constant cleaning and even then it was difficult to keep up with. I don’t know if you have forgotten but we have 19 cats. Thanks Elaine. Hi Jerry, I wrote to you a week or so ago about the unit. I have since borrowed one from Elaine Mc Clung. She speaks very highly of it. So, I brought it home and plugged it in.  Of course, I wanted it to come on, all the barking stop, and have every one immediately fall to the floor in little comas for a few hours. Well, after I got all 27 of them to be quiet, still no comas. But, it had only been 36 seconds at that point. So, I gave it a little longer.  Still no comas.  Was this really going to work?  I mean, I do have an unusual situation. So, by bedtime, a few hours later.  I started to notice just how many were asleep already – with their feet in the air!  I started to have hope. During the night, all was calm.  In the morning when I got up, only a few of them WALKED quietly to the door to go out.  Not the usual evacuation. I had the unit from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday Morning. I was certainly pleased with the night effect.  I wasn’t so sure about the amount of the day time effect.  Until I took it back. Within half an hour, the monsters had resurfaced.  I wondered if I could break into Elaine’s house and if she would notice I know another person who does dog rescue. She rescues Beagles.  She has 23 in an 1100 square foot house.  God bless her.  She is interested to see if it will work for her.  I also spoke to someone else who does cat rescue, and she is interested.  The cat rescue people have monthly meetings. Maybe Elaine could give a word or two about it. So, if there are any words of advice you can send my way about the best way to use it in my case, I would appreciate it.  I of course wanted to keep it on the highest setting, but don’t know if that is advised, even with my situation of so many new ones coming and (too few) going. Also, how I and others can go about getting one, etc.  I think the vets should have the info in their offices.  It must help dogs with separation anxiety.  My vet practices homeopathic as well as traditional medicine, so I would think it would be right up her alley. Thank you. Desiree M Webber A New Leash On

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> Hi, I just got my new dog (a 5 month old Shar Pei) about 5 > days ago.  His name is Miklo and he’s a great dog.

    You FINALLY got him? Congrats !!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The breeder mentioned that she had started working with him > on a leash and that he would be use to one, which he is!  He > does very well when it’s just him and I but when my son or > anyone for that matter is around he pulls and tugs on it and > trys following that person instead of me.  So my question > is, is it better to train him on walks alone or can I bring > my son along while trying to train him? > Also when I take him from the front door to the back yard > (about 20-25 feet) without a leash he stays right next to > me, doesn’t even try running.  Is this because he’s so well > trained or because he’s unfamiliar with his new > surroundings?  He seems to be getting braver everyday and > venturing a little bit further each day.  Could this be > because he’s getting braver in his new surroundings or > because I’m letting him get away with it and in a sense > untraining him?  Is that possible?

    I’d keep him leashed and after you have it firmly set with him to walk by you on leash, then introduce your son. Work on the command, ‘heel’, and it seems he already knows this sort of. Does he do it on command? While he’s on leash with you? Once you feel you have him set with that, then bring son in, and use distractions. Don’t do it if he’s off leash and unfenced. And don’t take leash off until he will walk right with you, along with your son romping around. Unless you have him secured in another way, i.e. fence.     He is probably getting braver and you’d do well to nip it in the bud. As Jane said, it’s much easier to teach a dog what you want it to do, than to teach it what you dont’  want it to do. You can use praise, verbal or treats, to work with him in beginning, then phase out treats. I STILL use plenty of verbal praise on my dogs. and always will.     Now, wasn’t he worth the wait? Good luck !! MaryBeth

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Yeah, well thanks for the advice anyway but I’m really tired of hearing (reading) you two fight!  So you disagree . . . not my problem – take it somewhere else. Nancy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi, I just got my new dog (a 5 month old Shar Pei) about 5 > days ago.  His name is Miklo and he’s a great dog. > The breeder mentioned that she had started working with him > on a leash and that he would be use to one, which he is!  He > does very well when it’s just him and I but when my son or > anyone for that matter is around he pulls and tugs on it and > trys following that person instead of me.  So my question > is, is it better to train him on walks alone or can I bring > my son along while trying to train him? > Also when I take him from the front door to the back yard > (about 20-25 feet) without a leash he stays right next to > me, doesn’t even try running.  Is this because he’s so well > trained or because he’s unfamiliar with his new > surroundings?  He seems to be getting braver everyday and > venturing a little bit further each day.  Could this be > because he’s getting braver in his new surroundings or > because I’m letting him get away with it and in a sense > untraining him?  Is that possible? > Thanks, > Nancy

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Yes, he was SO worth the wait!  He’s a great dog, my son and I absolutely love him.  It breaks my heart though, to leave him in his crate everyday, even though I knew that’s what I would be doing. I don’t think he knows heel on command yet.  I think he might just be more comfortable being right next to someone. That’s changing though?  This morning I took him out to the backyard (without his leash) and left the gate open.  He ran around in the back for awhile and than to the front yard and did his duty there instead of the backyard where he’s supposed to.  Meanwhile a car pulled up across the street and parked, he went towards it like he was going to go after the person that got out (I know he was thinking about it), I told him NO and come on, he waited for awhile than finally came inside the house with me.  It kind of scared me.  We don’t live on a busy street but cars do go through there and they’re usually not watching for dogs. Thanks for your advise. Nancy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, I just got my new dog (a 5 month old Shar Pei) about 5 > days ago.  His name is Miklo and he’s a great dog. >     You FINALLY got him? Congrats !!! > The breeder mentioned that she had started working with him > on a leash and that he would be use to one, which he is!  He > does very well when it’s just him and I but when my son or > anyone for that matter is around he pulls and tugs on it and > trys following that person instead of me.  So my question > is, is it better to train him on walks alone or can I bring > my son along while trying to train him? > Also when I take him from the front door to the back yard > (about 20-25 feet) without a leash he stays right next to > me, doesn’t even try running.  Is this because he’s so well > trained or because he’s unfamiliar with his new > surroundings?  He seems to be getting braver everyday and > venturing a little bit further each day.  Could this be > because he’s getting braver in his new surroundings or > because I’m letting him get away with it and in a sense > untraining him?  Is that possible? >     I’d keep him leashed and after you have it firmly set with him to walk > by you on leash, then introduce your son. Work on the command, ‘heel’, and > it seems he already knows this sort of. Does he do it on command? While he’s > on leash with you? Once you feel you have him set with that, then bring son > in, and use distractions. Don’t do it if he’s off leash and unfenced. And > don’t take leash off until he will walk right with you, along with your son > romping around. Unless you have him secured in another way, i.e. fence. >     He is probably getting braver and you’d do well to nip it in the bud. As > Jane said, it’s much easier to teach a dog what you want it to do, than to > teach it what you dont’  want it to do. You can use praise, verbal or > treats, to work with him in beginning, then phase out treats. I STILL use > plenty of verbal praise on my dogs. and always will. >     Now, wasn’t he worth the wait? > Good luck !! > MaryBeth

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So you think I should keep him on his leash or that I should praise him when he comes without one? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Quote: >  Could this be > because he’s getting braver in his new surroundings or > because I’m letting him get away with it and in a sense > untraining him? > Either is perfectly possible. Neither is desirable. Don’t let him get away with > it. > It’s *SO* much easier to prevent problems than to overcome them! > Jane Webb >  & Moonpie & Raisin Pie > http://www.WebbWeave.com

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Hello NGB, Your new found friend uses food rewards and praise to train her dogs to come, and does such a good job, she uses the shock collar to PROOF it… That’s the kind of mentality we’ve got here…

"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." "Read koehler for content" marquis de shaw, IDIOT, Sadist, rpdb regular. "I LOVE KOHELER" lyinglynn, IDIOT, pathological liar, noted dog abuser. Koehler On Correcting The Barking Dog Thunder through the door or gate, snatch up the belt that you’ve conveniently placed, and descend on him. He’ll have no chance to dodge if you grab the line and reel him in until his front feet are  raised off the floor or, if he’s a big dog, until you’ve snubbed him up with a hitch on something (ceiling hook, rafters, tree limb, door, or even over your shoulder, if you know HOWE. j.h.) While he’s held in close, lay the strap vigorously against his thighs. Keep pouring it on him until he thinks it’s the bitter end. A real whaling now may cut down somewhat on the number of repeat performances that will be necessary. When you’re finished and the dog is convinced that he is, put him on a long down to think things over while you catch your breath. After fifteen or twenty minutes, release him from the stay and leave the area again."   lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:  For barking in the crate – leave the leash on and  pass it through the crate door.  Attach a line to it.  When he barks, use the line for a correction. Amy lyingfrosty dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article (SHE’D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU DON’T READ IT!), there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears (INDEED, SHE PINCHES THEM WITH SPIKES). "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. I would never slap a dog (SHE TEACHES PEOPLE TO BEAT DOGS WITH STICKS TO MOTIVATE THEM). I would never advise anyone to slap a dog (SHE’S A PROVEN LIAR AND DOG ABUSER, do you expect her to ADMIT THE TRUTH???). I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, according to lyinglynn and avrama…. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in" With your hand on the collar and ear, say, ‘fetch.’ Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear. Gotta LOVE koehler. dahl makes koheler look like St. Francis. "Read for koehler for content" Mark Shaw, Idiot, Sadist, rpdb regular. "I LOVE KOHELER" lyinglynn, IDIOT, pathological liar, noted dog abuser. "There’s much wisdom in koehler," deana pace. (Her dogs run away from home.) "Read koehler," lyingdogDUMMY. (koehler is all he understands.) "Read koehler, cindymorons k-9 web faq’s page," ludwig smith. "Don’t let him do that, read cindymooreon’s web page," boob maida. And the prongs sticking and pinching into the dog’s throat is NOT DURESS. That’s why the dogs get "excited" when they see their "training" collars come out. They are BEGGING not to hurt them some moore. It’s the same way lyingfrosty dahl and freaky frantik fraud die get that animated look in their dogs when they work. The dog is TERRIFIED. The wiggling and happy look is ANXIETY, FEAR, and SUBMISSION. The dog is BEGGING not to hurt him some more. You can get all the information you need to handle and train your dog using non force, non confronatational, scientific and psychological methods, in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com The Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual is provided by the BIOSOUND Scientific Elves as an alternative to Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too). Your pal, Jerry "The Phony," Howe.

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Hello NGB, Your pal marybeth likes to keep an open mind about HURTING dogs to train them. She’d like to think we may learn to like to HURT our dogs to teach them advanced training… You can get all the information you need to handle and train your dog using non force, non confronatational, scientific and psychological methods, in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com The Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual is provided by the BIOSOUND Scientific Elves as an alternative to Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too). Your pal, Jerry "The Phony," Howe.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yes, he was SO worth the wait!  He’s a great dog, my son and > I absolutely love him.  It breaks my heart though, to leave > him in his crate everyday, even though I knew that’s what I > would be doing. > I don’t think he knows heel on command yet.  I think he > might just be more comfortable being right next to someone. > That’s changing though?  This morning I took him out to the > backyard (without his leash) and left the gate open.  He ran > around in the back for awhile and than to the front yard and > did his duty there instead of the backyard where he’s > supposed to.  Meanwhile a car pulled up across the street > and parked, he went towards it like he was going to go after > the person that got out (I know he was thinking about it), I > told him NO and come on, he waited for awhile than finally > came inside the house with me.  It kind of scared me.  We > don’t live on a busy street but cars do go through there and > they’re usually not watching for dogs. > Thanks for your advise. > Nancy > > Hi, I just got my new dog (a 5 month old Shar Pei) about 5 > > days ago.  His name is Miklo and he’s a great dog. >     You FINALLY got him? Congrats !!! > > The breeder mentioned that she had started working with him > > on a leash and that he would be use to one, which he is!  He > > does very well when it’s just him and I but when my son or > > anyone for that matter is around he pulls and tugs on it and > > trys following that person instead of me.  So my question > > is, is it better to train him on walks alone or can I bring > > my son along while trying to train him? > > Also when I take him from the front door to the back yard > > (about 20-25 feet) without a leash he stays right next to > > me, doesn’t even try running.  Is this because he’s so well > > trained or because he’s unfamiliar with his new > > surroundings?  He seems to be getting braver everyday and > > venturing a little bit further each day.  Could this be > > because he’s getting braver in his new surroundings or > > because I’m letting him get away with it and in a sense > > untraining him?  Is that possible? >     I’d keep him leashed and after you have it firmly set with him to walk > by you on leash, then introduce your son. Work on the command, ‘heel’, and > it seems he already knows this sort of. Does he do it on command? While he’s > on leash with you? Once you feel you have him set with that, then bring son > in, and use distractions. Don’t do it if he’s off leash and unfenced. And > don’t take leash off until he will walk right with you, along with your son > romping around. Unless you have him secured in another way, i.e. fence. >     He is probably getting braver and you’d do well to nip it in the bud. As > Jane said, it’s much easier to teach a dog what you want it to do, than to > teach it what you dont’  want it to do. You can use praise, verbal or > treats, to work with him in beginning, then phase out treats. I STILL use > plenty of verbal praise on my dogs. and always will. >     Now, wasn’t he worth the wait? > Good luck !! > MaryBeth

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> > Beware of Jerry Howe. > There’s NEVER Been An Unsatisfied Doggy Do > Right (and Kitty Will Too) Owner. > Baloney jer. > An unhappy purchaser of Jerry’s $100 training device has posted a review > at: > EdW > http://Petloss.com/inthenws.htm

Sorry ed, your "unhappy purchaser" has never brought his complaint to me or asked me any questions. As far as I’m concerned, a person who doesn’t tell me he’s having difficulty and doesen’t ask for a refund, is a satisfied customer. My Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too) is 100% money back, satisfacton guaranteed, forever, including paid return shipping… NO COMPLAINTS, ed. President Of Pet Rescue, Board Member Of The Alliance For Care And Welfare Of Animals, Feral Cat Network, And AKC Obedience & Agility Clubs" Says "I Would Not Recommend DDR (&KWT) If I Did Not Believe In It." Margaret and Elaine (below) have posted publicly, and have been veirified by dw and marquis de "Read koehler For Content," shaw.  dw PAID Margaret his reward. marquis is a fraud, and reneged on his payment. The third poster, Desiree (New Leash), is a member of the Space Cats Rescue in Melbourn, FL. You could also just check the posters long histories on usenet. You’ll LOVE this quote from Elaine’s post, after only three weeks using my Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too): "my cat aggressive (P.B.) dog is now much calmer with the little fur balls getting near her. Not perfect, but much improved! I do think your product is a valuable tool in helping with aggression and other behavior problems." You’ll like this quote too, from Desiree’s post.  She wrote me after using Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too) for just TWO DAYS. She’d borrowed it from Elaine, but Elaine called her back and asked her to return it A.S.A.P., because she needed it to keep her problem cat from bullying the others. Her post wasn’t sent as an endorsement, it was just her private email to me: "I had the unit from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday Morning. I was certainly pleased with the night effect.  I wasn’t so sure about the amount of the day time effect.  Until I took it back. Within half an hour, the monsters had resurfaced.  I wondered if I could break into Elaine’s house and if she would notice " Here’s the complete posts: Hi Jerry, I wrote to you a week or so ago about the unit. I have since borrowed one from Elaine Mc Clung. She speaks very highly of it. So, I brought it home and plugged it in.  Of course, I wanted it to come on, all the barking stop, and have every one immediately fall to the floor in little comas for a few hours. Well, after I got all 27 of them to be quiet, still no comas. But, it had only been 36 seconds at that point. So, I gave it a little longer.  Still no comas.  Was this really going to work?  I mean, I do have an unusual situation. So, by bedtime, a few hours later.  I started to notice just how many were asleep already – with their feet in the air!  I started to have hope. During the night, all was calm.  In the morning when I got up, only a few of them WALKED quietly to the door to go out.  Not the usual evacuation. I had the unit from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday Morning. I was certainly pleased with the night effect.  I wasn’t so sure about the amount of the day time effect.  Until I took it back. Within half an hour, the monsters had resurfaced.  I wondered if I could break into Elaine’s house and if she would notice I know another person who does dog rescue. She rescues Beagles.  She has 23 in an 1100 square foot house.  God bless her.  She is interested to see if it will work for her.  I also spoke to someone else who does cat rescue, and she is interested.  The cat rescue people have monthly meetings. Maybe Elaine could give a word or two about it. So, if there are any words of advice you can send my way about the best way to use it in my case, I would appreciate it.  I of course wanted to keep it on the highest setting, but don’t know if that is advised, even with my situation of so many new ones coming and (too few) going. Also, how I and others can go about getting one, etc.  I think the vets should have the info in their offices.  It must help dogs with separation anxiety.  My vet practices homeopathic as well as traditional medicine, so I would think it would be right up her alley. Thank you. Desiree M Webber A New Leash On And here’s one from Elain McClung: Hi Jerry, I do think your product is a valuable tool in helping with aggression and other behavior problems. I am in  Feral Cat Network (we spray and neuter approximately 100 feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC dog obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club, president of Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for Care and Welfare of Animals (on the board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County Manager, head of animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.). I would not recommend your product if I did not believe in it. Well, we have been running Doggy Do Right for a while (3 weeks) now and would appear that it is working. We are still on the lowest setting, but my cat aggressive dog is now much calmer with the little fur balls getting near her. Not perfect, but much improved! I do think that you need a more universal name than Doggy Do Right, (hence: and Kitty Will To) as it appears to have drastically cut the spraying problem down that we have with our crowded cat situation. I am going to send an e-mail to Domesti-Cats club, Feral Cat Network and Space Cats Club as a lot of the members have some of the same problems with their cats. It has also lessened the number of nightly cat fights. Thanks Elaine. Doggy Do Right and Jerry Howe: I do have a Doggy Do Right and have had it for about one year. It truly does work – at least on my Dobe, Chelsea. Chelsea was the unhappy recipient of several failed attempts at obedience training, both in a "class" environment and with a personal trainer. She is very high spirited and strong and, unfortunately, spoiled, since we are an older couple who doted on our dog. We were lucky enough to find Jerry Howe and to not only buy a Doggy Do Right, but to also have him personally work with Chelsea. His methods are wonderful and effective. Chelsea is not a dog that you will bully, and I wouldn’t dream of hurting her. After Jerry spent time with her, she no longer jumped on furniture, ate food off the counter, and pulled me incessantly on the leash. She is calmer and we are all happier. Well, it is a very long story and I won’t bore you will the details, but suffice it to say that Jerry Howe saved the day for our dog and for us. Marge Hoffman

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It looks like The Alliance for Care and Welfare of Animals is a fictitious organization created by Jerry Howe. The ONLY place "The Alliance for Care and Welfare of Animals" is mentioned on the entire Internet is on Jerry Howes DDR "testimonial" page. Still waiting for you to prove me wrong Jer. Ball is still in your court. EdW http://Petloss.com BTW Jer, an unhappy purchaser of your bogus $100 training device has posted a review at:

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5 days is a short time to really tell.  wait a few more days and see how he opens up more.  then when he knows who fits where in the house, start training.  when u have basics sorted bring others along and teach him how to behave then too.  Basically what u don;t like correct and what u like praise, but try to be praising more than not, as he’ll start to think everything is bad.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, I just got my new dog (a 5 month old Shar Pei) about 5 > days ago.  His name is Miklo and he’s a great dog. > The breeder mentioned that she had started working with him > on a leash and that he would be use to one, which he is!  He > does very well when it’s just him and I but when my son or > anyone for that matter is around he pulls and tugs on it and > trys following that person instead of me.  So my question > is, is it better to train him on walks alone or can I bring > my son along while trying to train him? > Also when I take him from the front door to the back yard > (about 20-25 feet) without a leash he stays right next to > me, doesn’t even try running.  Is this because he’s so well > trained or because he’s unfamiliar with his new > surroundings?  He seems to be getting braver everyday and > venturing a little bit further each day.  Could this be > because he’s getting braver in his new surroundings or > because I’m letting him get away with it and in a sense > untraining him?  Is that possible? > Thanks, > Nancy

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Hello jkj.c,

> 5 days is a short time to really tell.

Yes, for you maybe. >  wait a few more days and see how he opens up > more.

I’ve got some exercises that go far beyond that, and only takes a few minutes. We do that the first time we meet the dog, and it makes them thing we belong together, as a team. It’s all explained in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com >  then when he knows who fits where in the house, > start training.

That’s the way it was. The way it is now, we get all that to happen in about one hour doing some simple exercises as taught in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com > when u have basics sorted bring others along and > teach him how to behave then too.

RIGHT. That too. In about one hour, using the techniques in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydroight.com > Basically what u don;t like correct and what u like > praise,

Basically, YOU’RE RONGE. > but try to be praising more than not,

INDEED. > as he’ll start to think

SHOVE IT. > everything is bad.

Don’t need EVERYTHING being bad, it ONLY TAKES ONE bad incident, to make your dog mistrust you. That’s why I don’t use any aversives of reprimands or corrections of any kind. SEE? ONCE is all it takes. Jerry. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, I just got my new dog (a 5 month old Shar Pei) about 5 > days ago.  His name is Miklo and he’s a great dog. > The breeder mentioned that she had started working with him > on a leash and that he would be use to one, which he is!  He > does very well when it’s just him and I but when my son or > anyone for that matter is around he pulls and tugs on it and > trys following that person instead of me.  So my question > is, is it better to train him on walks alone or can I bring > my son along while trying to train him? > Also when I take him from the front door to the back yard > (about 20-25 feet) without a leash he stays right next to > me, doesn’t even try running.  Is this because he’s so well > trained or because he’s unfamiliar with his new > surroundings?  He seems to be getting braver everyday and > venturing a little bit further each day.  Could this be > because he’s getting braver in his new surroundings or > because I’m letting him get away with it and in a sense > untraining him?  Is that possible? > Thanks, > Nancy

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ESPECIALLY IF YOU’RE A DOG ABUSING COWARD.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > (long, thoughtful, *thorough* analysis snipped) >I wouldn’t trust an organization that doesn’t list a >street address, a "business (as in finances)" phone number, >and the names of its officers.  I worked in the non profit >sector for many years.  Respectable organizations are not >cagey like that. > Just one thought, here.  Our rescue group lists a PO Box.  We do not > list a street address for a couple reasons: we are a distributed > organization and do not *have* an office, etc.  We use volunteers’ > homes for our business, and volunteers do come and go over time.  That > same PO Box means that the address remains the same througout > personnel and organizational changes. We also deal with rescued dogs, > and if a street address were available, dogs would be abandoned at > that address.  So sometimes there are valid reasons for being cautious > about revealing home addresses outside of the organization, > particularly on the internet. > Cheers, > –Cindy > —

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Hell mc,

> Jerry wrote (of his *many* supporters):

Just plain old, ordinary, satisfied customers. NOT students of mine. >President Of Pet Rescue, > Pet Rescue has a ton of links, a bunch of "free stuff" > links,

So? I’ve never read their site. > but neither your free training manual nor your > black box are among them.

Why should they be? >  Guess what is – Cindy’s Complete FAQ

Oh, well THAT will be EASY to fix. WON’T IT? > list (remember Cindy, one of the many posters you > call a sadist, an idiot, and worse).

Yes. It’s TRUE, and PROVEN in blackman and white. And I’m CERTAIN the other rescue organizations will be glad to be informed of the crummy information on her site. They don’t know what’s there, I’m sure. Most link pages don’t know or care who’s linking to them. That’s why I won’t allow links on MY site. > They tout her document as follows: > "This is one of the biggest canine resources on the > ‘Net! Tons of information on every conceivable > subject about dogs."

That’s USUALLY written by the bums promoting the site. I’ll bring that to the organizations attention, and have the unsightly menace, REMOVED. NO PROBLEM. Thanks. We ALL thank you. > But, you are not mentioned ANYWHERE on the site, > Jerry. Isn’t that strange?

Not at all. I don’t run their organization, I only know a couple of board members. They’ll do whatever I suggest, so don’t worry. I’ll see to it they take the OFFENSIVE material off their site. >  Especially since the PRESIDENT of this >  "organization" is so very impressed with your . . . > wares?

NO PROBLEM. Consider it GONE. Don’t be such a hot head! I KNOW HOWE OFFENSIVE it is, it’ll be DEALT WITH. > Maybe the PRESIDENT really was impressed but she > is so embarrassed by your behavior on the ng that > she hides <VBG>.

She isn’t interested in converstation with our dog abusing Thugs. > I thought this blatant "lack of support" in the face of > glorious praise was perplexing.

EXCUSE ME? > No where on the site  is there a phone number or a > street address.

WRITE THEM. It’s NOT my business. > The board of directors is not listed either so I > couldn’t confirm who was "president" of this > strangely anonymous organization.

STRANGELY ANONYMOUS? I’ve never read their site, but there must be an address SOMEWHERE. I’m sure you’re bright enough to FIND it, unless you’re the sort who couldn’t find their butt in the dark with both hands… > Being the Sam Spade type, I looked up the the > number listed as the contract for "Pet Rescue."

Evidentally you’re not going to make it as a PI. > It has been changed to an unlisted number.  That is a > damn odd move for a non profit organization looking > for donated dollars.

Are you casting aspersions on them? > I noticed the business of the admin contact was > listed as "Pet Action League" located in DeBary, > Florida, and the information on the "Pet Rescue" site > also states that their tax ID name is Pet Action > League and they state a P.O. Box address in > Debary, FL.  Information in Debary, FL has no listing > for "Pet Action League."  No where on the site is > there a street address, nor is a board of directors > listed.

Maybe you should apply for a position as webmaster for them, seeing as your career as PI has gone down the crapper? > Another anonymous organization that wants nothing > more than a credit card number.

Tell THEM about it. You could PROBABLY just email them and ASK. But that’s YOUR dogfight. > A search on Florida’s IRS database for "Pet Action > League" brings up "Abandoned Pet Rescue Inc." in Ft. > Lauderdale, FL. > Why?

Why? I have no idea what you’re talking about. If you’d like to talk to them, I suggest you use your PI skills and talk to them. Meanwhile, I’ll inform them of your complaint about the vicious links on their site and I’ll have them take it out. FAIR ENOUGH? > I don’t know, but I’ve written to the Florida IRS site > and asked. > I went to the "Abandoned Pet Rescue" site and > expected to find a link to "Pet Action League" or "Pet > Rescue" but there were none (?).  There is an > extensive list of rescue organizations, humane > societies and animal shelters, but Pet Action League > and Pet Rescue are not mentioned, neither is > Elaine McClung.  Neither are the two "cat rescue" > organizations supposedly headed by the mysterious > Elaine McClung (a search on three different engines > brings up nothing on her name. . . except Jerry’s > website).

Well, you should probably stick to the things you’re good at, because PI work isn’t your strong suite, any moore than dog behavior is… > BTW, the President of "Abandoned Pet Rescue Inc." > is listed as Karen Judge.

I haven’t had the pleasure. > A phone call to the corporation resulted in > another answering machine, but at least this one ID’d > itself as Abandoned Pet Rescue, which doesn’t > appear to associate itself in any way, shape or form > with the two previously cited organizations or with > the two "cat rescue" organizations.

There’s PROBABLY a good reason for that. YOU’RE CALLING the RONGE people… Perhaps you should just look up Elaine’s email address from her posts HERE, or ask DW or marquis de "Read koehler For Content" shaw, and ask THEM. They’ve verified her information for their REWARDS for Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will TOO) owners. > Neither did it offer any information about what it > does, it’s finances, how to get your money back, > etc.

You mean the OTHER organization, the one having NOTHING to do with the one in Melbourne, FL? BRILLIANT. > I wouldn’t trust an organization that doesn’t list a > street address, a "business (as in finances)" phone > number, and the names of its officers.

GOOD! I suggest you call the sherriff’s fraud investigation division. They throw them in jail if they’re abusing funds as cindymooreon abuses dogs… > I worked in the non profit sector for many years.

Yes, I’m sure you can run a business with NO income. You’ve got a knack for being incapable of finding your butt in the dark with both hands . > Respectable organizations are not cagey like that.

I hardly think anyone is being cagey, EXCEPT YOU, and YOU’RE not bright enough to outwit a puppy dog… > Also, *none* of the counties involved named *any* of > the above entities as a resource.  Something to think > about.

Don’t strain yourself. Here, I found a PI school advertising on the back of this matchbox. I’ll send it to you in private email, so you can work the bugs out of your forthcoming endeavour as a PI, the dog business is clearly beyond your scope. There’s NEVER Been An Unsatisfied Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too) Owner. Here are THREE testimonials, and there’s hundreds of others: Doggy Do Right and Jerry Howe: I do have a Doggy Do Right and have had it for about one year. It truly does work – at least on my Dobe, Chelsea. Chelsea was the unhappy recipient of several failed attempts at obedience training, both in a "class" environment and with a personal trainer. She is very high spirited and strong and, unfortunately, spoiled, since we are an older couple who doted on our dog. We were lucky enough to find Jerry Howe and to not only buy a Doggy Do Right, but to also have him personally work with Chelsea. His methods are wonderful and effective. Chelsea is not a dog that you will bully, and I wouldn’t dream of hurting her. After Jerry spent time with her, she no longer jumped on furniture, ate food off the counter, and pulled me incessantly on the leash. She is calmer and we are all happier. Well, it is a very long story and I won’t bore you will the details, but suffice it to say that Jerry Howe saved the day for our dog and for us. Marge Hoffman A poster with pit bulls and a feral cat rescue writes: Hi Jerry, I do think your product is a valuable tool in helping with aggression and other behavior problems. I am in Feral Cat Network (we spray and neuter approximately 100 feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC dog obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club, president of Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for Care and Welfare of Animals (on the board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County Manager, head of animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.). I would not recommend your product if I did not believe in it. Well, we have been running Doggy Do Right for a while (3 weeks) now and would appear that it is working. We are still on the lowest setting, but my cat aggressive dog is now much calmer with the little fur balls getting near her. Not perfect, but much improved! I do think that you need a more universal name than Doggy Do Right, (hence: and Kitty Will To) as it appears to have drastically cut the spraying problem down that we have with our crowded cat situation. I am going to send an e-mail to Domesti-Cats club, Feral Cat Network and Space Cats Club as a lot of the members have some of the same problems with their cats. It has also lessened the number of nightly cat fights. Thanks Elaine. Hi Jerry, Lowest setting to us is when the machine is on the least number of times during the day. We are going to try putting it on the next setting and see if that will completely solve our problems. We are holding our breath at this point on the spraying and hoping that BIOSOUND continues to work. We will let you know. Yes, feel free to use my post. If you sell to people with cat spray problems though you might want to recommend that they do what we did. We went through the house with BACTerminator an enzyme product that eats the cat urine. We have used Bac T. for a long time and it usually only slows them down for a week or two, so I know it is the BIOSOUND that has created the success we are seeing right now. We are resigned to constant cleaning and even then it was difficult to keep up with. I don’t know if … read more »

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