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Hello lori,

> I am very sorry to hear of your loss.

It was PREDICTED. It’s the ONLY expectation that made SENSE, because THAT’S what happens when we try to repress a dog’s innate, natural, instictive, NORMAL, reflexive behaviors. > It is a very difficult decision you had to make;

Wasn’t difficult a the time. He had everybody here telling him to confront and punish the dog, to make IT FRIENDLY. > one I also had to make about 12 years ago.

Another wise choice, no doubt. > There is a part that never heals,

HOWE about that??? > but it does numb enough to give yourself to another dog.

Let’s HOPE he learned his lesson from Samson. > I think it will make you stronger in time,

Perhaps there is a lesson for steve and his family, in all this. NOTHING happens by accident or coincidence. > but it will never leave you.

Not until he LEARNS his lesson. I don’t think steve is anywhere NEAR ready to pass this course… In fact, he’s doomed to repeat it, unless he wakes up. > Samson knew you loved him and he loved you and trusted you to do right for > him,

And steve burned him. He let him down. HE KILLED SAMSON. HE KILLED SAMSON. HE KILLED SAMSON. UNDERSTAND? HE KILLED SAMSON. HE KILLED SAMSON. HE KILLED SAMSON. The dog is DEAD. And he didn’t have to be. > and you did.

INDEED. HE KILLED SAMSON. HE KILLED SAMSON. HE KILLED SAMSON. You don’t want to figure this out, do you? HE KILLED SAMSON. HE KILLED SAMSON. HE KILLED SAMSON. Because steve was AFRAID. He followed the advice of our Thugs, here, because THEY were AFRAID. It was DESTINED. It was the ONLY possible result of a defective method of "training." > Sometimes they are scarred too badly…

And sometimes NOT ENOUGH. HE KILLED SAMSON. HE KILLED SAMSON. HE KILLED SAMSON. > Best of luck to you and your future dog.

Yes. j;~} We’ve heard that time and again, from our Gang Of Thugs. KILLING DOGS is second nature to them, if the dog won’t submit to their G-D LIKE AUTHORITY. Steve was taught to react to the dog like a wild animal, and the dog paid the price, by learning to live like an animal. The result was PREDICTABLE. It’s the ONLY thing that made SENSE. > Whenever you decide to adopt again ( the sooner the better) you will be a great, and > responsible owner.

Not unless steve LEARNED, and I don’t think he has. I think he’s blaming the dog’s genes, not HIS CRUMMY APPROACH using fear, force, and punishment to dominate and subjugate the dog to HIS AUTHOURITY… > Any dog will be lucky and know that.

INDEED. Ask Samson. You CAN’T. HE KILLED SAMSON. Yours for sensless confrontation, Jerry "Don’t Let Him Do That" Howe. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — > Lori > Lacie…with the Golden Heart > Sam and Bubba…the Golden boys > Baxter…stealing food at the Bridge > Hello everyone, hope you remember me.  I’ve been quiet here for ages, > firstly because of a computer breakdown that took ages to remedy, and > then it’s been difficult to find the heart to write to the group again. > You see, on Sep 21, after much heart-searching, I took Samson back to > the RSPCA to be put to sleep.  He was a brilliant dog with his family, > but was becoming more & more fear reactive with people, especially small > children, and (apparently randomly) with other dogs, to the point where > we had to muzzle him when he went out and if we had visitors (which is > often), because we just couldn’t trust people to remember to leave him > alone, so his quality of life had become not much. > We put him through a rehab programme from John Rogerson’s practice – I > gather he’s pretty well-known, so some of you might have heard of him – > which did everything they said it would (reliable recall, focused his > attention much more on us, etc – except reduce his tendency to react > suddenly and bite.  The vet had checked him and found nothing, but I’d > still have suspected a brain tumour or something if it hadn’t been for > the fact that he was totally reliable with the kids and us. > I called the RSPCA to let them know that the rehab programme wasn’t > working, and they said that if we gave him back, they’d assess him but > he’d almost certainly be put down.  I couldn’t let him be alone among > strangers for his last moments, so I asked if they’d let me take him > immediately and stay with him while it was done, and they agreed. > It was a sunny day, and he was happy enough on the drive to the centre, > but I could barely hold myself together.  He was nervous of going into > the surgery and I had to coax him in, and I felt like an utter traitor. > I stroked him as they prepared him, crying and telling him how sorry I > was, and nearly panicked and ran out with him when they brought out the > needle.  But I knew if I did it would only be delaying the inevitable, > and I’d be risking someone, probably a child, being injured, which I > couldn’t do.  So I went through with it, and in a few seconds it was > over and I’d killed my dog, who trusted me to look after him. > I told a mailing list I’m on straight away, and they’ve been > fantastically kind.  I was in a daze for days afterwards, and still have > the occasional flashback to that day, but I’m coping a lot better now, > and would love to give a home to another dog, but my wife doesn’t feel > ready yet.  Soon, though, I hope.  I miss Samson terribly, but while I > feel a lot of guilt for the decision I made, I know there wasn’t another > way out, and at least I could make sure I was with him at the end. I > owed him that. > I know there are some here who will gloat over this email, but all I can > say is that their opinion, their existence, is irrelevant to me. For > the rest of you, the good, decent majority who frequent this group, I > didn’t want to just disappear, and not tell you what had happened, after > you gave me so much support and help from the outset.  Samson was my > first dog, and the help I got here made life much better for him and us > while we were together. > If the glad day comes when we do adopt another dog, I’ll let you know. > I hope it’s soon. > God bless, > — > Steve Walker

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It’s too late. I already know what a disgusting, vile human being you are. You are to be ignored now.

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>It’s too late. I already know what a disgusting, vile human being you are. >You are to be ignored now.

Come on, John.   It didn’t really take that Sampson post for you to know that Howe is a disgusting, vile human being, did it? I hope not. — Dogman http://www.i1.net/~dogman

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SO sorry to hear this Steve. You definitely tried and really in life that is all you can do.  Try your best and keep at it and see it though.  You did that, but it was just not meant to be. Please do plan to get another dog when the time is right. Marla Belzowski & the LegendHold Collie Clan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello everyone, hope you remember me.  I’ve been quiet here for ages, > firstly because of a computer breakdown that took ages to remedy, and > then it’s been difficult to find the heart to write to the group again. > You see, on Sep 21, after much heart-searching, I took Samson back to > the RSPCA to be put to sleep.  He was a brilliant dog with his family, > but was becoming more & more fear reactive with people, especially small > children, and (apparently randomly) with other dogs, to the point where > we had to muzzle him when he went out and if we had visitors (which is > often), because we just couldn’t trust people to remember to leave him > alone, so his quality of life had become not much. > We put him through a rehab programme from John Rogerson’s practice – I > gather he’s pretty well-known, so some of you might have heard of him – > which did everything they said it would (reliable recall, focused his > attention much more on us, etc – except reduce his tendency to react > suddenly and bite.  The vet had checked him and found nothing, but I’d > still have suspected a brain tumour or something if it hadn’t been for > the fact that he was totally reliable with the kids and us. > I called the RSPCA to let them know that the rehab programme wasn’t > working, and they said that if we gave him back, they’d assess him but > he’d almost certainly be put down.  I couldn’t let him be alone among > strangers for his last moments, so I asked if they’d let me take him > immediately and stay with him while it was done, and they agreed. > It was a sunny day, and he was happy enough on the drive to the centre, > but I could barely hold myself together.  He was nervous of going into > the surgery and I had to coax him in, and I felt like an utter traitor. > I stroked him as they prepared him, crying and telling him how sorry I > was, and nearly panicked and ran out with him when they brought out the > needle.  But I knew if I did it would only be delaying the inevitable, > and I’d be risking someone, probably a child, being injured, which I > couldn’t do.  So I went through with it, and in a few seconds it was > over and I’d killed my dog, who trusted me to look after him. > I told a mailing list I’m on straight away, and they’ve been > fantastically kind.  I was in a daze for days afterwards, and still have > the occasional flashback to that day, but I’m coping a lot better now, > and would love to give a home to another dog, but my wife doesn’t feel > ready yet.  Soon, though, I hope.  I miss Samson terribly, but while I > feel a lot of guilt for the decision I made, I know there wasn’t another > way out, and at least I could make sure I was with him at the end.  I > owed him that. > I know there are some here who will gloat over this email, but all I can > say is that their opinion, their existence, is irrelevant to me.  For > the rest of you, the good, decent majority who frequent this group, I > didn’t want to just disappear, and not tell you what had happened, after > you gave me so much support and help from the outset.  Samson was my > first dog, and the help I got here made life much better for him and us > while we were together. > If the glad day comes when we do adopt another dog, I’ll let you know. > I hope it’s soon. > God bless, > — > Steve Walker

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> It’s too late. I already know what a disgusting, vile human being you are. > You are to be ignored now.

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