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> treat.  As soon as he stops sniffing/mouthing at your hand, tell him ‘YES!" and > give him the treat from your other hand.  Do this a few times, and soon he will > be leaving the treat in your open palm and looking to you for the other treat. > Make sure you don’t give him the leave it treat

I didn’t have any trouble at all giving Jackie the "leave it" treat. Actually her "leave it" has gotten genuiney enthusiastic since we taught the companion cue, "cleanup".  Putting a behavior on cue really does reduce off-cue instances, even when the dog is still enthusiastic about it… It doesn’t matter where the treat is when it’s being left or where the treat comes from when it’s given to the dog or the dog is told to clean up;  it matters what *you* say.  Same treat, available or not available, the dog needs to look to you and not to the treat for this information. Elizabeth

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Owie! Paul Matthews wrote …  > doxie mix I had in HS ate part of a double-edge razor blade once. I have – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> no idea if it came out or stayed in, but she never had any blood in her > poop or problems from it. > OTOH, I had to take a fishhook out of a GSD mix’s lip one > time…qualifies as one of the hardest things I’ve ever done. Poor girl > was really, REALLY good about it…could feel it going through the > flesh, danged thing had to hurt like hell.

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Yeah. I don’t suppose there IS any way to stop dogs from picking things up, huh… Except maybe HURTING the dog MOORE than you’d like, eh? Like lyindogDUMMY told Paul and Marty, huh? Eh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Eh? Your pal, Jerry "The PHONY," Howe. j;~}

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Ah, the little surprises of what all you’ll dig out of your pup’s mouth > ><g> > I almost had a heart attack a couple of weeks ago when I saw Madigan walking > around with a straight pin sticking out of her mouth!  And that’s before she > would do "drop it."  I was so afraid that she’d fight me taking it, and stick > herself or swallow it.  Got it without injury, though. > doxie mix I had in HS ate part of a double-edge razor blade once. I have > no idea if it came out or stayed in, but she never had any blood in her > poop or problems from it. > OTOH, I had to take a fishhook out of a GSD mix’s lip one > time…qualifies as one of the hardest things I’ve ever done. Poor girl > was really, REALLY good about it…could feel it going through the > flesh, danged thing had to hurt like hell. > — > Paul C – Purebred…mix…their tails still wag the same and they’ll > still grab your lunch. Scratch an ear anyways.

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Hello Maureen,

> When outside to walk and do his business, my pom pup > likes to pick up crispy leaves or small twigs and carry them > around.

That sounds like fun. I imagine it’s pretty harmless. I’d be concerned if she were interested in other things. > Sometimes he chews up a piece of mulch, etc.

Do you suppose it’s treated with anything? I’d be careful about that. You could teach her only to pick up approved articles, and you could even teach her to ask permission to pick something up. > The other day he was eyeing an earthworm on the > driveway after a rain.

Sounds like fun, although the worm probably didn’t think so. > (I steered him away, pronto).

Can’t say’s I blame you. HOWEver, I doubt the worms will hurt her. In fact, they’re an excellent source of protein. Might be able to get a nice protein and mineral supplement if she takes a couple of worms with each walk. That’s optional though, you’d probably prefer not to have any ‘all natural’ supplements. But be satisfied with worms, you could do worse, ha, ha, ha. > How do I put an end to this?

You can easily break that habit using sound distraction and praise techniques as taught in the FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available at http://www.doggydoright.com >  What method of training do you suggest? Thanks.

I don’t think our Gang Of Thugs HAS any suggestions at all for this problem, EXCEPT to HURT your little dog MOORE than you’d LIKE. At least that’s the advice they gave to Paul and Marty over a similar problem. Their dogs were eating poo, not sticks and leaves and worms. You’re lucky. At any rate, Paul and Marty didn’t LIKE the idea of HURTING their dogs AT ALL, so they followed my instructions in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com , and were able to solve their problems in just a few minutes over a couple of days. It took them about an hour and a half longer to learn the techniques, than it took to extingush the behaviors, WITHOUT HURTING NOBODY. And they learned a lot of other good stuff that you won’t find elsewhere. So, if you get any suggestions from our Gang Of Thugs other than "don’t let her do that" as our "expert" boob maida advises, I’ll fall over from dope slapping myself… Meanwhile, you’ll find all the instructions you need to learn non force, non confrontational, scientific and psychological, distraction and praise techniques that will quickly and permanently address ALL your pup’s behavior problems, and and an obedience program to bring her to any level of training you desire. But that’s up to you.You don’t NEED to do weeks or months of repetitive obedience "classes" to address all your needs. Just ask for help if you have any difficulty, there’s NO charge, no obligation, and I won’t be begging you for spare change like our friend ed (who’ll be along presently to warn you about NOT LISTENING to me and he’ll tell you my FREE training manual is a RIP OFF, and that I’m ONLY trying to sell you my Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too) machine. But that’s a lie. Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too) is 100% money back satisfaction guaranteed FOREVER, and BIOSOUND Scientific pays all return shipping, and gives a two year warranty, and a 25% discount for ALL shelter and rescue people REGARDLESS of their tax exempt status or affiliation with a bona fide organization. That’s because I like to HELP people who care about dogs. I’m mean to dog abusers though, so you mightn’t want to follow my advice. If that troubles you, I suggest you ask lyingdogDUMMY to tell you HOWE to HURT your dog enough to make her stop that. Your pal Jerry "The PHONY," Howe. j;~} Paul still posts here. Here’s Marty’s last post: Hello Martog,

> Just wanted to say thanks.

No. Thank you! You’re welcome. I’m always available (and FREE) to offer all the HELP you may need for all of your dog training and behavior problems. > The method you told me to stop my dog from > eating my other Labs sh-t in the backyard has worked > well.

Yes.  All my methods and techniques work LIKE FREAKING MAGICK. My techninques work and we NEVER hurt dogs or apply force or negative connotations to ANYTHING we do with our dogs. I just got a new neighbor, who’s tied a pit bull to the other side of my fence. That was Friday. By Monday, my dogs don’t even bother going over to say hello, they just ignore her and her two pups. > She has also improved greatly when off leash out in > the woods.

Wonderful. Do the exercises, and you’ll get 100%. > She still sniffs (of course), but I rarely need to stop her > from anything else.

That IS a problem sometimes. Maybe some of our dog trainer "experts" can give us some solutions for that? Maybe some Hot Sauce on their noses??? > I’ve always been diligent about watching her, and > cleaning up the yard, but ya just can’t be there every > second.

Well, supervision is less crucial when you know your dog simply isn’t interested in eatin poo or digging under the fence or jumping over it. Our experts here have HIT THE WALL for training and handling information and advice… They THINK and ACT, like CAVEMEN. JUST LOOK AT lia’s thread "1 step forward." She’s GONNA KILL Cubbe with her brand of "TRAINING," and her cretin pals here will pass around the crying towel and tell her she "DUN EVERYTHING she couldda. But alas, it was BAD GENES, she saw that from the very begining with Cubbe, and Cubbe was LUCKY ENOUGH, to find a wonderful, kind, careing, INTELLECTUAL, to HELP her as much as she could… bad genes." That’s what they told THEIR GOOD BUDDY Robert Crim, when he KILLED Fritz, because of their INSANE approach to training and behavior, and THAT’S what they told steve when he KILLED Samson, with their confrontation that taught Samson to become "FEAR AGGRESSIVE" towards OTHER PEOPLE’S CHILDREN… DEAD DOGS DON’T LIE. > And she is quick! So, thanks again for the advice.

My pleasure. And the same applies to ANY bums here who want to IMPROVE themselves… I don’t hold grudges. I’ll even bust my hump to help lia, DESPITE that she was the FIRST to report me to my ISP for "spamming." > I feel more confident now when I turn my back.

THAT’LL TAKE ME SOME GETTING USED TO!!! I only feel confident when I’m travelling incognito or wearing a bullet proof vest… > And to all you folks going yea, sure, right. THIS IS > NOT A TROLL POST. HE gave me advice. It worked. > Plain and simple. Nothing more, nothing less.

That’s where it’s at. Too bad our Gang Of Thugs would prefer to HURT their dogs, than to admit that Jerry’s RIGHT. Of course, you understand HOWE embarassing THAT IS for our friends here.  BWAAAHAHAHHAAA!!! > So Jerry, allthough I don’t lurk here, I’m sure you’re > still putting up with DogButt and his ilk.

Well, they’ve made it easier for me. They have all pretty much aligned and identified themselves with their warnings and criticism of me and my INFORMATION. I like that. That way, new readers KNOW there’s something dreadfully stinking in this group… > So good keep up the good work!

Yes, INDEED. I’ll be turning up the pressure on them. I’m going to be contacting their breed and training clubs and organizations and affiliated shelters or rescues, and see if we can’t clean out these slimy vermin, who tell people to jerk and choke dogs on pronged choke collars and shock, twist and pinch ears, toes, and testicles, and crate dogs because they don’t have a clue about training them… ONCE AND FOR ALL… They’re FINISHED. WATCH ME. > Off course DogButt will read this, even thoe it doesn’t > have his name on it.

Yeah. Well, he needs the exercise. He’s finally put me into his killfile so he don’t have to answer my questions, because you KNOW… (you can’t win an argument if your RONGE. BWAAAHAHAHAA!!!) > Cause he thinks he owns the group.

Nobody owns my group. I came in here to make certain we’ve got ONLY THE BEST information. You want  choices of methods? Fine by me. Let’s talk about training methods. I’ve been asking professor dermer to defend ENDORSING koehler. I’ve been asking EVERYONE to come up with ONE valid criticism of the Wits’ End Dog Training Method. They CAN’T. NOTHING, except "BEWARE!?!?! of Jerry and his ridiculous, impossible, sweeping claims." BRILLIANT, huh? Let’s see some of our experts talk to me… They won’t. They’ve even told Capn Faggotty to debate me. HE TELLS HIS LITTLE GIRL TO SCARE ME OFF!!! The coward. BWWAAAHAHAHAAA!!!!

Wait a minit, wait a minit, wait a minit, wait a minit… DON’T FORGET THE REST OF OUR Gang Of Thugs. Take the whole damn Conga Line, and let them BOOGALOO ON OUTTTA HERE all at once. We don’t WANT trainers here who NEED to HURT dogs to train them… > Well,,,,never mind. You’re already a loser.

Well, I do think I deserve a good amount of credit for PROOOVING that here… BUT KEEP IN MIND, it’s not just lyindogDUMMY. Punks like him can’t function alone, they NEED a Gang Of Thugs, to support and LIE for them. Like our own professor lyingdoc dermer, and the other experts, like blackman, and cindymooreon and her FAQ’s page at k9web… janet boss, lyinglynn, john richardson.. I’ll be HURTING THEM BIG-TIME soon through their organizations… They’re FINISHED. They won’t be telling folks to hurt their dogs and begging money off of us for donations to continue hurting and KILLING dogs they can’t HURT ENOUGH to make them RESPECT their G-d Like "AUTHORITY."  They’re ALL history. COUNT ON IT. TRUST ME. > I don’t need to tell you that.

I’m just grateful you were able to solve your dog behavior problems WITHOUT HURTING NOBODY… SEE? THAT’S WHAT GETS DOGS DEAD. I’ve never been comfortable KILLING dogs because I can’t HURT them enough in training… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Please feel free to correct my

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> >Ah, the little surprises of what all you’ll dig out of your pup’s mouth ><g> > I almost had a heart attack a couple of weeks ago when I saw Madigan walking > around with a straight pin sticking out of her mouth!  And that’s before she > would do "drop it."  I was so afraid that she’d fight me taking it, and stick > herself or swallow it.  Got it without injury, though.

doxie mix I had in HS ate part of a double-edge razor blade once. I have no idea if it came out or stayed in, but she never had any blood in her poop or problems from it. OTOH, I had to take a fishhook out of a GSD mix’s lip one time…qualifies as one of the hardest things I’ve ever done. Poor girl was really, REALLY good about it…could feel it going through the flesh, danged thing had to hurt like hell. — Paul C – Purebred…mix…their tails still wag the same and they’ll still grab your lunch. Scratch an ear anyways.

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>Ah, the little surprises of what all you’ll dig out of your pup’s mouth ><g>

I almost had a heart attack a couple of weeks ago when I saw Madigan walking around with a straight pin sticking out of her mouth!  And that’s before she would do "drop it."  I was so afraid that she’d fight me taking it, and stick herself or swallow it.  Got it without injury, though. Learn How to Can Spam http://www.whew.com/Spammers/reportspam_stepbystep.shtml http://www.spamfree.org/ WHITE HAT OF THE MONTH – Nominate At:  http://www.whitehat.com/whotm/ Internet Secrets, 2nd Edition, by John Levine (All About Spam, p. 277)

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>When outside to walk and do his business, my pom pup likes to pick up crispy >leaves or small twigs and carry them around.  Sometimes he chews up a piece >of mulch, etc.  

I swear Madigan is trying to build a nest on our porch.  Every single time she goes out, she picks up a stick and carries it around with her until she gets back to the apartment.  I make her leave it on the porch, or she’d have a collection inside the house.  Yesterday she picked up an animal’s tail!  (Don’t know what kind of animal – good thing she responds to "drop it," because I didn’t want to touch the scurvy thing!) When we first got her, she’d pick up ANYTHING off the ground.  Now that she’s stuck on sticks, I just let her do it. Learn How to Can Spam http://www.whew.com/Spammers/reportspam_stepbystep.shtml http://www.spamfree.org/ WHITE HAT OF THE MONTH – Nominate At:  http://www.whitehat.com/whotm/ Internet Secrets, 2nd Edition, by John Levine (All About Spam, p. 277)

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> Be prepared at the time to physically remove the offensive item from > his mouth when you start training. > Terri

Heh, yup…and it never comes out as nicely as it went in. Ah, the little surprises of what all you’ll dig out of your pup’s mouth <g>

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>When outside to walk and do his business, my pom pup likes to pick up >crispy leaves or small twigs and carry them around.  Sometimes he chews >up a piece of mulch, etc.  The other day he was eyeing an earthworm on >the driveway after a rain.  (I steered him away, pronto).

This bothers you? Okay. It’s your pup! (I’m more grossed out by pups picking up dead animals, cow and horse plops or other dogs’ crap). >How do I put an end to this?  What method of training do you suggest?

Since you’re there with him at the time, it’s also a perfect time to teach the "leave it" or "drop" command. Distract him immediatly after he drops it, and reward him with the favorite method of your choice. Toys, praise, treats, whatever. Be prepared at the time to physically remove the offensive item from his mouth when you start training. In a bit,you should see him leaving things when you say so, upon command. Terri

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Earth worm won’t hurt your pup. They mostly tend to outgrow this sort of thing.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> When outside to walk and do his business, my pom pup likes to pick up crispy > leaves or small twigs and carry them around.  Sometimes he chews up a piece > of mulch, etc.  The other day he was eyeing an earthworm on the driveway > after a rain.  (I steered him away, pronto). > How do I put an end to this?  What method of training do you suggest? > Thanks.

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"Maureen S." says… > When outside to walk and do his business, my pom pup likes to pick up crispy > leaves or small twigs and carry them around.  Sometimes he chews up a piece > of mulch, etc.  The other day he was eyeing an earthworm on the driveway > after a rain.  (I steered him away, pronto). > How do I put an end to this?  What method of training do you suggest? > Thanks.

As the owner of a scoop & chomp, she’s allowed all the leaves, grass & twigs she wants. Trash, food, cigarette butts etc. she’s not allowed. Unless it’s a poisonous plant or getting stuck in the pup’s throat, there’s no reason a puppy can’t have some fun with the crunchies. They’ll stop after a while. Be glad the pup can find fun while taking a walk instead of ignoring the world.

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The puppy is just exploring his/her world. About the only thing you can do is to just keep steering him away. Maybe start using a quiet, grunt-type sound as a cue. It’ll take awhile–in fact, the puppy will probably do this kind of thing for a long time. There are so many interesting things to see and do outside, don’tcha know. oooieoo

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> When outside to walk and do his business, my pom pup likes to pick up crispy > leaves or small twigs and carry them around.  Sometimes he chews up a piece > of mulch, etc.  The other day he was eyeing an earthworm on the driveway > after a rain.  (I steered him away, pronto). > How do I put an end to this?  What method of training do you suggest? > Thanks.

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>How do I put an end to this?  What method of training do you suggest?

Teach him to "Leave it". You can start with a hand leave it.  Take a treat in one hand and a treat in the other hand.  Show your dog the treat in one hand by holding it down to him while it’s in your palm.  As soon as he goes to snatch it, tell him "Leave it" and close your hand.  Don’t move your hand, just close it so he cant get the treat.  As soon as he stops sniffing/mouthing at your hand, tell him ‘YES!" and give him the treat from your other hand.  Do this a few times, and soon he will be leaving the treat in your open palm and looking to you for the other treat. Make sure you don’t give him the leave it treat When he gets this, you can start dropping one treat on the floor, tell him to leave it as soon as you drop it.  If he goes for it, cover it with your foot. Soon as he stops sniffing your foot, he gets the treat out of your other hand. When he learns leave it, you can employ the Leave It command on your walks Dogstar716 Come see Gunnars Life: http://hometown.aol.com/dogstar716/index.html "AKC papers do not mean you are getting a quality dog. They are merely a birth certificate. Even puppy mill pet shop pups have AKC papers" – Bob Maida

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When outside to walk and do his business, my pom pup likes to pick up crispy leaves or small twigs and carry them around.  Sometimes he chews up a piece of mulch, etc.  The other day he was eyeing an earthworm on the driveway after a rain.  (I steered him away, pronto). How do I put an end to this?  What method of training do you suggest? Thanks.

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