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REALLY? And who told you this?..A Dalmation? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dalmations are known to be biters. > Ed.Onatrio.Canada

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1) Find a Trainer and have him/her come to your house for a consult. 2) Find an obedience class and work with your dog every day. 3) Be firm. -Shannon To respond, please remove the anti-spam from my address.  Thank you.

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My dog used to do this, I would use both my hands and close his mouth and in a very mean growling tone, I would say: "No, Bite!"  Then I would keep her mouth squeezed until she would calm down.  When calm, I would say: "Good, girl." This worked for me. If your dog is very agressive, perhaps you could seek a professional animal behaviorist to help in your dilemma.  If you want to invest in your dog because you love him, it will be worth it.  Just shop around and find out how qualified they are; ask their experience, ask what organizations they are in,  and ask to see letters of recommendation/reference. Neutering your dog may curb some aggressiveness but all dogs have their own individual personality.  You must look at the whole dog and not just the "sum of his parts"(or in this case, Subtraction). Saminathan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->In the last week my dog, a beautiful Dalmation 2 years and 4 months old, male, >try to bite me. I have deal with dogs all my life, and never something like >this has happen to me. Can any one give me an advise, why is Babe trying to >bite me, I am his friend, gis mommy, I can’t understand what is going on, he >was always a sweet dog, he steel been, but twice this week he try to atack me, >well may be not atack, but try to bite me, and I can deal with that. I have to >trust in my dog, we are friends, and if he react like this with no aparental >reasons I can trust in him. He is right now punished, I put him in the garage >because he try to bite me this afternoon when I has given him a special meal. I >was siting next to him waiting until he finish his meal, and holding the plate >because it was moving all around. He seems to enjoy the meal, and he aproches >to me and kised me, and than when I was holding his plate he grounch at me, and >try to bite my hand. Last time he did this was after we came home and he was on >the leather cauch, I was telling him to don’t go over the couach again, that he >knows he is not aloud to be on the cauch, and than he bite me in the face. >Please I want to hear your opinion, what can I do for him, I don’t want to give >him to the human society, I know what they will do to him, I worked for them >once. I don’t want eathir keep a dog with emotional problems, is to dangerous. >May be if I fixe him it will help? What about training? oh! please, help me >save the life from my stupid dog, he dosn’t understand that if he keep doing so >my fiance will make me give him away, because is to dangerous for the kids….I >need to find out how to stop this bfrom Babe, so I can keep him

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:   :  These situations develop over a course of time. The owners will be on : the short end of an increasingly dangerous dog, but might not realize it. :  There’s no guarantee that any training will fix the situation. The only : way they’re going to know that the training failed is when the next : person gets nailed. You seem to have formed some very strong opinions about a dog you’ve never met.  I’d estimate that well over 50% of intact male dogs without any training would pull the same kind of pushing nonsense right around 18-24 months if they thought they could get away with it.  Hardly cause for predictions of doom and recommendations to put the dog down.  Is it very serious and something that needs immediate attention?  Hell, yes.  But should the owner be considering putting the dog down on the basis of your advice?  Hell, no. Lynn K. —

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 It helps anyone who isn’t a dog hobbyist like you to steer away from the new Dalmatian craze.  Your training tips for Dals are great. Provided that the person is an experienced dog handler, doesn’t have small kids, and knows how to arrange their time for maximum dog supervision and training.  You are an expert in dog behavior. MOST dog owners are not. The training tips are mostly useless for the average owner. They’re working 8-10 hours a day, live in limitted space, have a couple of kids, and not clue one about Dalmatians outside of the fact that they are pretty.

: : : :  Except for the ones that are in fact quite dangerous. These dogs : : classically had a tendency to wig out, and that was even befor they : : became the latest fad dog. Thanks to Disney. : :  They have a high incidence of deafness. Few families are prepared to : : deal with a deaf Dalmatian. The increased breeding has intensified all of : : their most difficult tendencies. We’re going to be seeing more dangerous : : Dalmatians. Sadly, dog fans had better get used to seeing it. : "Wig out" !?!  Damn it, Elaine, how is anything you wrote above supposed : to help anyone at all, let alone the original poster with the dominance : problem?  You’ve shared your opinion, but it really isn’t worth much since : you have no experience with Dals and because you haven’t added anything : constructive. : FWIW, I think every shelter has seen an increase in Dals because people : who couldn’t handle them got them ignorantly, but I don’t think we’ve : seen the expected explosion of badly bred Dals or temperament changes. : Dangerous – not particularly and not if well managed: : – active athletic dogs that need a lot of running : – need firm, consistent handling, but respond poorly to harsh corrections : – more likely to be fearful than aggressive : – affectionate, but tend to not respect other’s "space" : – adult males can get territorial : – need a lot of proofing because they aren’t as focused as some breeds : – often "soft" in training : – long memories for anything that scared or hurt them : – can get over-excited and physical in play : That’s a lot different from a dog labelled as "dangerous" and "wigging out". : Lynn K. : —

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > FWIW, I think every shelter has seen an increase in Dals because people > who couldn’t handle them got them ignorantly, but I don’t think we’ve > seen the expected explosion of badly bred Dals or temperament changes. > Dangerous – not particularly and not if well managed: > – active athletic dogs that need a lot of running > – need firm, consistent handling, but respond poorly to harsh corrections > – more likely to be fearful than aggressive > – affectionate, but tend to not respect other’s "space" > – adult males can get territorial > – need a lot of proofing because they aren’t as focused as some breeds > – often "soft" in training > – long memories for anything that scared or hurt them > – can get over-excited and physical in play > That’s a lot different from a dog labelled as "dangerous" and "wigging out". > Lynn K. > —

So, you’ve met DomiNoe and Dillon, have you?

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: :  Except for the ones that are in fact quite dangerous. These dogs : classically had a tendency to wig out, and that was even befor they : became the latest fad dog. Thanks to Disney. :  They have a high incidence of deafness. Few families are prepared to : deal with a deaf Dalmatian. The increased breeding has intensified all of : their most difficult tendencies. We’re going to be seeing more dangerous : Dalmatians. Sadly, dog fans had better get used to seeing it. "Wig out" !?!  Damn it, Elaine, how is anything you wrote above supposed to help anyone at all, let alone the original poster with the dominance problem?  You’ve shared your opinion, but it really isn’t worth much since you have no experience with Dals and because you haven’t added anything constructive. FWIW, I think every shelter has seen an increase in Dals because people who couldn’t handle them got them ignorantly, but I don’t think we’ve seen the expected explosion of badly bred Dals or temperament changes. Dangerous – not particularly and not if well managed: – active athletic dogs that need a lot of running – need firm, consistent handling, but respond poorly to harsh corrections – more likely to be fearful than aggressive – affectionate, but tend to not respect other’s "space" – adult males can get territorial – need a lot of proofing because they aren’t as focused as some breeds – often "soft" in training – long memories for anything that scared or hurt them – can get over-excited and physical in play That’s a lot different from a dog labelled as "dangerous" and "wigging out". Lynn K. —

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: My dog used to do this, I would use both my hands and close his mouth and in : a very mean growling tone, I would say: "No, Bite!"  Then I would keep her : mouth squeezed until she would calm down.  When calm, I would say: "Good, : girl." : This worked for me. To the original poster:  Please don’t try this advice with your Dalmatian. While appropriate for puppy mouthing, it would be confrontational and very dangerous for the dominance challenges your dog is showing.  Get him to a good trainer instead. Lynn K. —

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: not for everyone, probably not a particularly good first dog, and definitely : not recommended with small children (not that they’re dangerous,  Except for the ones that are in fact quite dangerous. These dogs classically had a tendency to wig out, and that was even befor they became the latest fad dog. Thanks to Disney.  They have a high incidence of deafness. Few families are prepared to deal with a deaf Dalmatian. The increased breeding has intensified all of their most difficult tendencies. We’re going to be seeing more dangerous Dalmatians. Sadly, dog fans had better get used to seeing it.

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Dalmations are known to be biters. Ed.Onatrio.Canada

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>Dalmations are known to be biters. >Ed.Onatrio.Canada

No, they’re not, particularly.  They are not the cute, cuddly stuffed animals immortalized in those damned Disney movies, however.  People who expect them to react like Pongo and Perdita and the other 99 pups could well be unpleasantly surprised when they treat them as such.  They’re certainly not for everyone, probably not a particularly good first dog, and definitely not recommended with small children (not that they’re dangerous, they’re just big, exuberant, playful, and have a tendency to knock small people over and step on them).  They tend to be stubborn and single minded (I’ve never seen a dog with the attention span and memory DomiNoe exhibits…) so they tend to be difficult to train (mine also don’t do well with any kind of negative correction, either, but that isn’t necessarily a breed characteristic).  On the plus side, they’re the most loving, loyal dogs I’ve ever had, bar none.

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DON’T BLAME THE DOG!!!!!!! Before rushing out and KILLING a dog, find out why he is acting that way and try to correct it…always suprvise a dog around children….U call yourself a dog lover I am glad many of my clients never called you before calling me…none would have their beloved dog now. THINK BEFOR YOU LEAP!!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > : Sybil, > :   What you really need to do is get him some training and, perhaps, neutering.  You > : really should totally ignore Elaine >  You may as well stop trying to make every dangerous dog case that I > comment on about me. It’s not about me. It’s about a bad situation that > is on the road to turning into a disaster. > : as she is well known for her views >  My main interest in dog newsgroups is in fact family and community safety. > : and would > : probably have half the canine population of the world put down summarily if >  she had > : her way >  About half the cases that I comment on are families in direct danger of > animal attack. Yes. If I had my way not ONE more kid would get mauled by > the family dog. >  (as long as it didn’t cost her anything) >  As long as it didn’t cost ME anything? This is a Dalmatian. some of the > most heinous attacks on children that I have ever heard of were by > Dalmatians. What if she had said that a Doberman had bitten her in the > face? Well, paint the Dalmatian black and tan, and you have basically the > same thing. >  As long as it doesn’t "cost" me anything?  I suppose that you’re > offering to pay for medical treatments if that dog hurt the woman again, > or one of the kids?

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>In the last week my dog, a beautiful Dalmation 2 years and 4 months old, male, >try to bite me. I have deal with dogs all my life, and never something like >this has happen to me. Can any one give me an advise, why is Babe trying to

1.  Take him to a vet asap.  Often, when a dog’s behavior changes it is due to a medical problem.  In your case, if he has all of a sudden started to guard and become aggressive over food then it could be a medical problem such as thyroid disease or even something as simple as worms — both of which can cause a dog to be ravenously hungry. Or it could be to a neurological problem.  So, rule out a physical problem first because that is what I suspect it is.  At the same time you should neuter the dog if you haven’t already done so. 2.  Take him to an experienced trainer who specializes in dog aggression.  He/she can evaluate the problem and figure out the best solution.   Most of the dogs that I have dealt with that have had aggression problems (well, all but one) were able to be "cured" after going to a good trainer.  One dog was just too unpredictable and probably had a mental disorder and had to be euthanized.  By the way, don’t dump your aggressive dog at a humane society —-he would just be aggressive to someone else — perhaps someone with a small child!  If you can’t correct the problem after going to a vet and a trainer then you should have the dog euthanized yourself. -Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->bite me, I am his friend, gis mommy, I can’t understand what is going on, he >was always a sweet dog, he steel been, but twice this week he try to atack me, >well may be not atack, but try to bite me, and I can deal with that. I have to >trust in my dog, we are friends, and if he react like this with no aparental >reasons I can trust in him. He is right now punished, I put him in the garage >because he try to bite me this afternoon when I has given him a special meal. I >was siting next to him waiting until he finish his meal, and holding the plate >because it was moving all around. He seems to enjoy the meal, and he aproches >to me and kised me, and than when I was holding his plate he grounch at me, and >try to bite my hand. Last time he did this was after we came home and he was on >the leather cauch, I was telling him to don’t go over the couach again, that he >knows he is not aloud to be on the cauch, and than he bite me in the face. >Please I want to hear your opinion, what can I do for him, I don’t want to give >him to the human society, I know what they will do to him, I worked for them >once. I don’t want eathir keep a dog with emotional problems, is to dangerous. >May be if I fixe him it will help? What about training? oh! please, help me >save the life from my stupid dog, he dosn’t understand that if he keep doing so >my fiance will make me give him away, because is to dangerous for the kids….I >need to find out how to stop this bfrom Babe, so I can keep him

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In the last week my dog, a beautiful Dalmation 2 years and 4 months old, male, try to bite me. I have deal with dogs all my life, and never something like this has happen to me. Can any one give me an advise, why is Babe trying to bite me, I am his friend, gis mommy, I can’t understand what is going on, he was always a sweet dog, he steel been, but twice this week he try to atack me, well may be not atack, but try to bite me, and I can deal with that. I have to trust in my dog, we are friends, and if he react like this with no aparental reasons I can trust in him. He is right now punished, I put him in the garage because he try to bite me this afternoon when I has given him a special meal. I was siting next to him waiting until he finish his meal, and holding the plate because it was moving all around. He seems to enjoy the meal, and he aproches to me and kised me, and than when I was holding his plate he grounch at me, and try to bite my hand. Last time he did this was after we came home and he was on the leather cauch, I was telling him to don’t go over the couach again, that he knows he is not aloud to be on the cauch, and than he bite me in the face. Please I want to hear your opinion, what can I do for him, I don’t want to give him to the human society, I know what they will do to him, I worked for them once. I don’t want eathir keep a dog with emotional problems, is to dangerous. May be if I fixe him it will help? What about training? oh! please, help me save the life from my stupid dog, he dosn’t understand that if he keep doing so my fiance will make me give him away, because is to dangerous for the kids….I need to find out how to stop this bfrom Babe, so I can keep him

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 Sybil-         I’m not sure you should keep him. You say that he already has bitten you in the face? Your dog has a condition called dominance aggression. If he had not already tried to re-arrange your face, I could in good conscience recommend a training program to re-habilitate him.  At this point you can bet good money that he WILL bite again, and you will never know when. You, your fiance and the kids are in danger.  If you were single, and decided to take this terrible risk of keeping this family aggressive dog onto yourself, that would be one thing. It would be completely irresponsible to expose the kids to this risk.

: In the last week my dog, a beautiful Dalmation 2 years and 4 months old, male, : try to bite me. I have deal with dogs all my life, and never something like : this has happen to me. Can any one give me an advise, why is Babe trying to : bite me, I am his friend, gis mommy, I can’t understand what is going on, he : was always a sweet dog, he steel been, but twice this week he try to atack me, : well may be not atack, but try to bite me, and I can deal with that. I have to : trust in my dog, we are friends, and if he react like this with no aparental : reasons I can trust in him. He is right now punished, I put him in the garage : because he try to bite me this afternoon when I has given him a special meal. I : was siting next to him waiting until he finish his meal, and holding the plate : because it was moving all around. He seems to enjoy the meal, and he aproches : to me and kised me, and than when I was holding his plate he grounch at me, and : try to bite my hand. Last time he did this was after we came home and he was on : the leather cauch, I was telling him to don’t go over the couach again, that he : knows he is not aloud to be on the cauch, and than he bite me in the face. : Please I want to hear your opinion, what can I do for him, I don’t want to give : him to the human society, I know what they will do to him, I worked for them : once. I don’t want eathir keep a dog with emotional problems, is to dangerous. : May be if I fixe him it will help? What about training? oh! please, help me : save the life from my stupid dog, he dosn’t understand that if he keep doing so : my fiance will make me give him away, because is to dangerous for the kids….I : need to find out how to stop this bfrom Babe, so I can keep him

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: In the last week my dog, a beautiful Dalmation 2 years and 4 months old, male: try to bite me. I have deal with dogs all my life, and never something like : this has happen to me. You have a young adult intact male, untrained, who has decided that he has the right to set the rules, and enforce them with his mouth.  This is indeed serious and you have to do something about it immediately.  Neutering him is not enough to cure this behavior, and neither is a beginning group obedience class.   None of us can tell you exactly what this dog needs from a written description.  You have to get him to a good trainer who can evaluate him in person.  Call your vet and the local shelter and ask for a referral to a trainer who works with aggression problems.  Do it right away or things will get worse and you will have to put this dog down. Lynn K. —

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Sybil,   What you really need to do is get him some training and, perhaps, neutering.  You really should totally ignore Elaine as she is well known for her views and would probably have half the canine population of the world put down summarily if she had her way (as long as it didn’t cost her anything) Pat – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >  Sybil- >         I’m not sure you should keep him. You say that he already has > bitten you in the face? Your dog has a condition called dominance > aggression. If he had not already tried to re-arrange your face, I could > in good conscience recommend a training program to re-habilitate him. >  At this point you can bet good money that he WILL bite again, and you > will never know when. You, your fiance and the kids are in danger. >  If you were single, and decided to take this terrible risk of keeping > this family aggressive dog onto > yourself, that would be one thing. It would be completely irresponsible to > expose the kids to this risk. > : In the last week my dog, a beautiful Dalmation 2 years and 4 months old, male, > : try to bite me. I have deal with dogs all my life, and never something like > : this has happen to me. Can any one give me an advise, why is Babe trying to > : bite me, I am his friend, gis mommy, I can’t understand what is going on, he > : was always a sweet dog, he steel been, but twice this week he try to atack me, > : well may be not atack, but try to bite me, and I can deal with that. I have to > : trust in my dog, we are friends, and if he react like this with no aparental > : reasons I can trust in him. He is right now punished, I put him in the garage > : because he try to bite me this afternoon when I has given him a special meal. I > : was siting next to him waiting until he finish his meal, and holding the plate > : because it was moving all around. He seems to enjoy the meal, and he aproches > : to me and kised me, and than when I was holding his plate he grounch at me, and > : try to bite my hand. Last time he did this was after we came home and he was on > : the leather cauch, I was telling him to don’t go over the couach again, that he > : knows he is not aloud to be on the cauch, and than he bite me in the face. > : Please I want to hear your opinion, what can I do for him, I don’t want to give > : him to the human society, I know what they will do to him, I worked for them > : once. I don’t want eathir keep a dog with emotional problems, is to dangerous. > : May be if I fixe him it will help? What about training? oh! please, help me > : save the life from my stupid dog, he dosn’t understand that if he keep doing so > : my fiance will make me give him away, because is to dangerous for the kids….I > : need to find out how to stop this bfrom Babe, so I can keep him

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >: Sybil, >:   What you really need to do is get him some training and, perhaps, >neutering.  You >: really should totally ignore Elaine > You may as well stop trying to make every dangerous dog case that I >comment on about me. It’s not about me. It’s about a bad situation that >is on the road to turning into a disaster. >: as she is well known for her views > My main interest in dog newsgroups is in fact family and community safety. >: and would >: probably have half the canine population of the world put down summarily if > she had >: her way > About half the cases that I comment on are families in direct danger of >animal attack. Yes. If I had my way not ONE more kid would get mauled by >the family dog. > (as long as it didn’t cost her anything) > As long as it didn’t cost ME anything? This is a Dalmatian. some of the >most heinous attacks on children that I have ever heard of were by >Dalmatians. What if she had said that a Doberman had bitten her in the >face? Well, paint the Dalmatian black and tan, and you have basically the >same thing.<br><br>

Doberman’s are not violent breeds as long as they are treated right. You need to stop evoking paranoia and look on the posotive ways to deal woth this problem!!! <br> <br> —— <br> Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. <br> ——

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        I just came back to this group so I don’t know what’s gone before in this thread, but the first thing _I_ would do if my dog suddenly started trying to bite is take it to the vet.  I’d want to eliminate organic causes first and the vet would probably then be able to advise on further action as needed.         Your vet is your friend.  Visit often. David L. Burkhead                   "If I had eight hours to Advanced Surface Microscopy, Inc.   cut down a tree, I’d spend http://www.a1.com/asm                         Abraham Lincoln      Space — Japanese Animation — History — Science Fiction      ’72 Mustang disclaimer:  none of the opinions in this message are necessarily              those of ASM, Inc.

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I’m not buying any of this,*Sybil*. Terri

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 You don’t even READ the about the situations. You apparently don’t differentiate between a big, dominant actively biting dogs and any dog with dominance problems.  I pretty much stay totally OUT of the discussion unless someone fails to point out that the owner and the family are in danger.  These situations develop over a course of time. The owners will be on the short end of an increasingly dangerous dog, but might not realize it.  There’s no guarantee that any training will fix the situation. The only way they’re going to know that the training failed is when the next person gets nailed.

: > : Sybil, : > : > :   What you really need to do is get him some training and, perhaps, neutering.  You : > : really should totally ignore Elaine : > : >  You may as well stop trying to make every dangerous dog case that I : > comment on about me. It’s not about me. It’s about a bad situation that : > is on the road to turning into a disaster. : > : No, it’s not about you.  It’s about letting someone with a problem know that the advice : she’s receiving from people other than you is probably more valid then yours. : > : > : > : > : as she is well known for her views : > : >  My main interest in dog newsgroups is in fact family and community safety. : > : Maybe so, but your solution is almost always to KILL the dog, regardless of any other : circumstance. : > : > : > : > : and would : > : probably have half the canine population of the world put down summarily if : >  she had : > : her way : > : >  About half the cases that I comment on are families in direct danger of : > animal attack. Yes. If I had my way not ONE more kid would get mauled by : > the family dog. : > : If this person gets the proper training, she will be well able to control this dog and : avoid both further problems.  If, after said training, she still can’t control it, then : is the time to consider placing the dog with someone who can handle it, or put it down. : > : > : > : >  (as long as it didn’t cost her anything) : > : >  As long as it didn’t cost ME anything? This is a Dalmatian. some of the : The breed here is immaterial — This is a 2 year old, intact male dog who has never had : any obedience training.   He is asserting himself the way all dogs will at this stage : and does, indeed, present a hazard to his owners if he isn’t corrected properly.  If : they have the dog destroyed, they will probably just go out and get another puppy, will : give it just as much attention and training as they have the dalmatian and will be back : in the same position in another 2 years.  If they take the more sane advice to have the : dog neutered, attend obedience training and assert themselves as the dog’s pack leaders, : they may well have a well behaved companion for the next 10-12 years. : > most heinous attacks on children that I have ever heard of were by Dalmatians. What if : > she had said that a Doberman had bitten her in the face? Well, paint the Dalmatian : > black and tan, and you have basically the same thing. : Actually, as I stated above, the breed is immaterial and I would, indeed give her the : same advice whether the dog involved were a doberman (which breed is, in my experience, : one of the most gentle in existence), a bloodhound, or a golden retriever.  If fact, the : only concession I will make is that dalmatians tend to be more stubborn and, therefore, : harder to train than some other breeds, so she should probably find a good, professional : trainer for some one on one work with the dog. : >  As long as it doesn’t "cost" me anything? : Actually, I must admit that this was actually a reference to your many posts accusing : the veterinary profession of only being interested in the almighty dollar and your : stated refusal to spend a significant amount of money on medical treatment for your own : animals.  It really didn’t have a place in this discussion, and I apologize for bringing : it up in this manner. : > I suppose that you’re : > offering to pay for medical treatments if that dog hurt the woman again, : > or one of the kids?

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: Sybil, :   What you really need to do is get him some training and, perhaps, neutering.  You : really should totally ignore Elaine  You may as well stop trying to make every dangerous dog case that I comment on about me. It’s not about me. It’s about a bad situation that is on the road to turning into a disaster. : as she is well known for her views  My main interest in dog newsgroups is in fact family and community safety. : and would : probably have half the canine population of the world put down summarily if  she had : her way  About half the cases that I comment on are families in direct danger of animal attack. Yes. If I had my way not ONE more kid would get mauled by the family dog.  (as long as it didn’t cost her anything)  As long as it didn’t cost ME anything? This is a Dalmatian. some of the most heinous attacks on children that I have ever heard of were by Dalmatians. What if she had said that a Doberman had bitten her in the face? Well, paint the Dalmatian black and tan, and you have basically the same thing.  As long as it doesn’t "cost" me anything?  I suppose that you’re offering to pay for medical treatments if that dog hurt the woman again, or one of the kids?

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: In the last week my dog, a beautiful Dalmation 2 years and 4 months old, : try to bite me. I have deal with dogs all my life, and never something li : this has happen to me. Can any one give me an advise, why is Babe trying : bite me, I am his friend, gis mommy, I can’t understand what is going on, You are Babe’s friend and his mommy, but you are not his pack leader, and that is the problem.  Apparently both incidents occured when you gave the dog an order he did not wish to obey (you were holding the plate he wanted; you ordered him off the couch). EG> . EG> : May be if I fixe him it will help? What about training? oh! please, help EG> : save the life from my stupid dog, he dosn’t understand that if he keep do EG> so Castration may or may not help, but it certainly will not hurt. What about training–definitely.  However, because neither I nor anyone else can see the dynamics from messages, I suggest that first you have the vet give your Dal a complete physical to rule out any physical cause, and then you hire a behavioral consultant/ trainer who is experienced dealing with inappropriate aggression to observe what happens and to evaluate the situation, and then to advise you what to do–and you follow it.  In the meantime, obedience training cannot hurt and will be a strong assist in teaching you how to be a pack leader and your dog how to be a proud and happy first lieutenant. Good luck. avrama & shomer P.S.  If you bought your Dal from a responsible, dedicated, knowledgeable       breeder, ask him/her for advice, and a recommendation for a trainer.       If not, well, that’s that.  Other sources of good trainers are       your vet, any one with a well-behaved Dal you might know, and even       the newsgroups.  Perhaps if you tell us the town and city where       you live, someone can recommend a good behaviorist/trainer. EG> : my fiance will make me give him away, because is to dangerous for the kid EG> .I EG> : need to find out how to stop this bfrom Babe, so I can keep him EG>                                                                       .. nfx v2.7 [C0000] Our pack is led by an alpha bitch-and the dog knows it!

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> : Sybil, > :   What you really need to do is get him some training and, perhaps, neutering.  You > : really should totally ignore Elaine >  You may as well stop trying to make every dangerous dog case that I > comment on about me. It’s not about me. It’s about a bad situation that > is on the road to turning into a disaster.

No, it’s not about you.  It’s about letting someone with a problem know that the advice she’s receiving from people other than you is probably more valid then yours. > : as she is well known for her views >  My main interest in dog newsgroups is in fact family and community safety.

Maybe so, but your solution is almost always to KILL the dog, regardless of any other circumstance. > : and would > : probably have half the canine population of the world put down summarily if >  she had > : her way >  About half the cases that I comment on are families in direct danger of > animal attack. Yes. If I had my way not ONE more kid would get mauled by > the family dog.

If this person gets the proper training, she will be well able to control this dog and avoid both further problems.  If, after said training, she still can’t control it, then is the time to consider placing the dog with someone who can handle it, or put it down. >  (as long as it didn’t cost her anything) >  As long as it didn’t cost ME anything? This is a Dalmatian. some of the

The breed here is immaterial — This is a 2 year old, intact male dog who has never had any obedience training.   He is asserting himself the way all dogs will at this stage and does, indeed, present a hazard to his owners if he isn’t corrected properly.  If they have the dog destroyed, they will probably just go out and get another puppy, will give it just as much attention and training as they have the dalmatian and will be back in the same position in another 2 years.  If they take the more sane advice to have the dog neutered, attend obedience training and assert themselves as the dog’s pack leaders, they may well have a well behaved companion for the next 10-12 years. > most heinous attacks on children that I have ever heard of were by Dalmatians. What if > she had said that a Doberman had bitten her in the face? Well, paint the Dalmatian > black and tan, and you have basically the same thing.

Actually, as I stated above, the breed is immaterial and I would, indeed give her the same advice whether the dog involved were a doberman (which breed is, in my experience, one of the most gentle in existence), a bloodhound, or a golden retriever.  If fact, the only concession I will make is that dalmatians tend to be more stubborn and, therefore, harder to train than some other breeds, so she should probably find a good, professional trainer for some one on one work with the dog. >  As long as it doesn’t "cost" me anything?

Actually, I must admit that this was actually a reference to your many posts accusing the veterinary profession of only being interested in the almighty dollar and your stated refusal to spend a significant amount of money on medical treatment for your own animals.  It really didn’t have a place in this discussion, and I apologize for bringing it up in this manner. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I suppose that you’re > offering to pay for medical treatments if that dog hurt the woman again, > or one of the kids?

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My suggestion here is get a professional dog trainer for some personalized dog training lessons.  Your dog is displaying dominance toward you.  The best way to correct this and lower him in the pecking order of your family, is by a regular routine of dog obedience training and dominance conditioning.  Seeing your dog is already biting, I would definately suggest you only train him under professional supervision when you begin. You should have commenced your dogs conditioning and training from the day you received him to ensure this didn’t happen. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In the last week my dog, a beautiful Dalmation 2 years and 4 months old, male, > try to bite me. I have deal with dogs all my life, and never something like > this has happen to me. Can any one give me an advise, why is Babe trying to > bite me, I am his friend, gis mommy, I can’t understand what is going on, he > was always a sweet dog, he steel been, but twice this week he try to atack me, > well may be not atack, but try to bite me, and I can deal with that. I have to > trust in my dog, we are friends, and if he react like this with no aparental > reasons I can trust in him. He is right now punished, I put him in the garage > because he try to bite me this afternoon when I has given him a special meal. I > was siting next to him waiting until he finish his meal, and holding the plate > because it was moving all around. He seems to enjoy the meal, and he aproches > to me and kised me, and than when I was holding his plate he grounch at me, and > try to bite my hand. Last time he did this was after we came home and he was on > the leather cauch, I was telling him to don’t go over the couach again, that he > knows he is not aloud to be on the cauch, and than he bite me in the face. > Please I want to hear your opinion, what can I do for him, I don’t want to give > him to the human society, I know what they will do to him, I worked for them > once. I don’t want eathir keep a dog with emotional problems, is to dangerous. > May be if I fixe him it will help? What about training? oh! please, help me > save the life from my stupid dog, he dosn’t understand that if he keep doing so > my fiance will make me give him away, because is to dangerous for the kids….I > need to find out how to stop this bfrom Babe, so I can keep him

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