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Hello diana,

> Hi, > [..] > 99% of the time it’s very happy and sociable, but lately he’s begun > growling at the kids, and even once at my girlfriend. He’s now even > gone so far as to jump up on one the kids friend’s, growling. > From what I’ve read so far, it seems he may be a fear biter.Even when he > was only a couple of weeks old, he’s always been kind of timid. > [..]

Shove, diana. > This is really very common in young dogs

INDEED. It’s just killed three or four dogs right here in the last couple months. > as they go through their ‘teenage crisis’ stage.

That’s a load of horseshit, diana. These behavior problems are CAUSED by the mishandling you prefer to recommend to people. My students do not have a "rebellious adolescent" STAGE in response to their repressive mishandling like you and your ‘expert’ pals who jerk and choke and shock and beat and hang dogs to train them. > Just like people, he’s getting to grips with his identity and > it is a very difficult stage for a dog.

That’s BULLSHIT. The dog is objecting to being HURT and INTIMIDATED as you and your pals teach. >  Good positive and fun socialisation is vital at this point.

Ain’t you a freakin prize, you miserable double talking Thug. > Don’t let the children corner him

Children cornering him will not make him feel CORNERED unless they’re playing some alphalpha crap games and trying to punish or intimidate him. That’s what makes cornered dogs bite. FEAR. What’s a dog to FEAR from a child PLAYING with him in a corner? NOTHING, unless that child is copying what his mommy and daddy do to him and his puppy, diana. That’s HOWE COME you tell people to killfile Jerry and make hundreds of complaints to my ISP diana. I’ve EXPOSED you and your CHUMP CHUMS who NEED to dominate and intimidate their dogs to compensate for your fragile defective ego’s and weak minds, diana. The truth HURTS, don’t it? BWWWAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! I’m the cruelest dog trainer in history, ain’t I, diana? And I don’t even touch dogs to train them. > or pull him around and ask that they remain calm around him,

Like mommy and daddy when they correct and train them??? > but all the time they are around he should be praised and rewarded and > really learn to associate the presence of kids with having a great time. The > kids can be rewarded for their efforts afterwards with candy bribes ~ so > everyone wins! (except maybe your wallet!)

You’re one sick bitch. You gonna teach children bribery? > It’s possible that the growling has coincided with the start of his puppy > training, once he started being disciplined. The trainer was pretty rough > on him, I’m wondering if that did more harm than good… Can’t be too sure > about that, though. > Don’t let ANYONE bully or mess your dog about.

Oh? What’s BULLY? > He’s your dog and depends on you for security

AMAZING! > You’ve got to live with him, not the trainer, so you want > to ensure he is happy and stable, feels secure and has no fears.

He’s paying the trainer to HELP him. > You point out he is of nervous nature. If you feel uncomfortable ~ like in an > interview situation, and someone starts pulling you around, how are you > going to react?

I dunno. All depends. > ~ and in the same situation, if someone pulls you up a chair, offers you > coffee and really makes it clear they are pleased to see you, then are you > more likely to try and give your best back?

I might not drink the coffee and look for a tack on the seat. And I certainly wouldn’t accept any advice from the likes of you, diana. > My sister definitely doesn’t want the dogs around the kids anymore, but > I’m wondering whether I should take it or not. The dog seems to be really > happy around me and my girlfriend, is it possible to train this out of him? Do I > need to put him down? > I sort of can’t blame her for not wanting him, and it sounds like this big > dog needs more attention than she might have as a busy mum, otherwise she > might have noticed and been able to stop this ever becoming a problem.

This problem is a direct result of his training. As for big, a big dog ain’t big problems, unless you provoke them. > If you would like to take this dog it would be great,

You think that would be great, diana? You think the family who raised their dog only to have his life ripped off by a professional trainer agree that would be GREAT, diana? > but remember that he will require a fair bit of work from you at first to > get this problem sorted before it escalates ~ and the very last thing you > need is some ‘trainer’ jerking him about.

Right, what he needs is a nice shock collar, diana. I recommend FRAUDreck and his tritronics brand of medical grade static like stimulation. > Look for socialisation classes ~

Like the ones janet boss and lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn and twzl run? > ask around, maybe at your vets,

Yeah, an excellent idea. Find a other professional trainer who’ll HANG this dog and fix him up right. > may be look in the paper ~

Yeah! > there are people here who may be able to recommend contacts /

Sure! Our carol levie went to see our boob maida for dog aggression and he sent her to his competitor so she wouldn’t have to come back here and admit that boob could only teach her to HURT her dog. So his competitor taught her HOWE to HURT her dog, and she came outta there with her dog snapping at her in the presence of other dogs. And our cindy long took her dog Buck to see FRAUDreck, and didn’t have any LUCK there either. But I did. She confirmed that Buck trembled for a couple days following his shocking experiences. > places in your area. Keep ‘bribery’ with you at all times.

You’re an idiot, diana. > Any difficult / scary situations ( from your dogs point of view) need gentle > handling and loads of praise and reward for overcoming ~

Sure, tell it somewhere else. > without turning him in to a big cry baby…

Thanks for all the advice, diana. You did find the advice in your FREE copy of my FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual to be effective on your own dog’s fear aggression, didn’t you diana? The reason you hate me is cause you can’t stop punishing and confining your dog, because that makes you FEEL insecure… > Diana

You need to get the heel outta here, diana. Check this out, good buddy:  "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite Harsh And  Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few  Times It Happens, But You’ll Get Over It." mike duforth, author:  "Courteous Canine."   "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is   something you twisted out of context, because you   are full of bizarro manure."

>Di, > I don’t believe you mentioned a particular kind of training. If you > are interested in training retrieval behavior than do consider > our own Amy Dahl’s: > The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a Well-Mannered, Obedient and > Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a Day > by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl

You failed to mention your pals the dahls are proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"  "I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A Dog I Do Not Believe There  Is A Single Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A Dog Is Anything  But Destructive," "I don’t see why anyone would want to choke or  beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get a good working dog by  making them unhapper, fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl  who continues: > just $17.95 at Amazon.com. > (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the few regulars here who > are either ill-tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.) > –Marshall

amy lying frosty dahl continues:  "On the other extreme, the really hard dogs we have trained  require much more frequent and heavy application of  pressure (PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,  This is continued resistance to your increasing authority, and the  job is not done until it is overcome  Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it  yourself. Tougher,  less tractable dogs may require you to progress to  striking them more sharply  Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar,  even the  buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in  but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the  ear pinch  You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb  even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that  Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting  your will fades in importance.  CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever Ready Right Hand,  As it catches on, try using the stick and no ear pinch. When the  dog is digging out to beat the stick and seems totally reliable without  any ear pinch, you are finished  This is continued resistance to your increasing authority,  and the job is not done until it is overcome" If the dog drops it, chuck  it solidly under the chin, say "No! Hold!"  (stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps because the ear is getting  tender, or the dog has decided it isn’t worth it)" lying frosty dahl.  "Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap," professora gingold. > > Jerome Bigge writes: > > I do know that hitting, hurting your dog will often make the > > dog either aggressive or a fear biter, neither of which we

 > > > want to do. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And neither does anyone else, Jerome.  No matter what Jerry Howe > states. > –Matt.  Rocky’s a Dog. > You’re scary Marilyn. > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed individual.  I feel very sorry > for her and her family. > BUT, giving you the benefit of the doubt,  please

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Hello Norman,

> Hi, > My sister’s dog has been exhibiting strange behaviour lately.

Dog’s don’t have strange behaviors unless they’re ill. Dog behaviors are normal, natural, instinctive, reflexive responses to situations and conditions of their environment that WE provide for them. > He’s a 1 year old Lab crossed with a German short-haired pointer, and is

*extremely* active. "Extremely active" is CAUSED by inappropriate and ineffective handling. > I’ve been around him since birth, I guess I am what is termed the > "alpha" person in his pack.

The alpha theory is BUNK. > 99% of the time it’s very happy and sociable,

Is it now? > but lately he’s begun growling at the kids, and even once at my girlfriend. > He’s now even gone so far as to jump up on one the kids friend’s,

growling. At the age of 9-12 months they come into adulthood… > From what I’ve read so far, it seems he may be a fear biter.Even when he was > only a couple of weeks old, he’s always been kind of timid.

No problem. We’ve got techniques that will fix it. > It’s possible that the growling has coincided with the start of his puppy > training, once he started being disciplined.

That’s HOWE COME Jerry don’t train like our "experts." Our "experts" hurt and kill their dogs and blame it on bad breeding or the handler being too lenient. > The trainer was pretty rough on him,

Yeah. Our DOG LOVERS here think HURTIN dogs is NORMAL: "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens, But You’ll Get Over It." mike duforth, author: "Courteous Canine." Whaddya think of a stupid vicious bastard like that mike duforth? That’s cause the dog was being stubborn or aggressive. Our ‘experts’ are afraid of dog’s behaviors that  they cannot train, so they hurt the dog so they won’t be thrown outta their HOWESes for being BAD. Then the dogs get aggressive from being HURT and INTIMIDATED and locked in a box and left to cry till  they’re quiet before you let them out… and then jerk and choke the dogs on their pronged spiked pinch choke collar and before ya know it, we got CHEDDAR. We’ve already killed about a half dozen dogs on our forum this year. Where the heel is ed w of petloss dot con when ya need him?  Hey eddie??? Tell our poster HOWE to find his koehler book (pronounced keeler by georgie cockroach). > I’m wondering if that did more harm than good…

I’d stake my life your "expert trainer" is about to get your dog DEAD. Again. They’re USED to this, they GOT OVER IT as mikes sez. They HAVE to GET OVER IT, cause the do this to about 10% of their dogs. Only their BEST dogs get DEAD. The rest of ‘em get along o.k. being hurt and intimidated and still others like FRAUDreck’s K0 Maddy and lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn’s SAR dog Jive stand out as representatives of the very best you’ll ever get from a force trainer, a FAKE dog. NEITHER of those two chumpion dogs can WORK, although they do great in their trials, when the dog THINKS he can be HURT cause the trials SEEM like their regular classes where they’re jerked and choked and shocked and beaten with sticks and much, much, moore. > Can’t be too sure about that, though.

I can. I’ll stake my life on it. Care to take up a law suite, I’ll be happy to present expert witness testimony for you in court for FREE (expenses only). All I’ll need is a review of everything you were taught, and I’ll point out exactly HOWE that caused other seemingly non related behavior problems… > My sister definitely doesn’t want the dogs around the kids anymore,

Not surprising. She’s afraid of him now, thanks to her fearful trainer. She was afraid before too, when she allowed an abusive trainer to mishandle him for her. I’ve seen this kinda crap happen often over the past forty years. I’m fixing to drop the hammer on the entire industry. Stick around, we’re gonna make them PAY. > but I’m wondering whether I should take it or not.

Absolutely not. Give your sister a FREE copy of your FREE copy of my FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual and the dog will be better than good as new in a few days, maybe less. Charlie (his post below) came here with an aggression problem he CURED in ONE session using my gentle methods. > The dog seems to be really happy around me and my girlfriend, > is it possible to train this out of him?

Yes, but you’ll have to forget everything the "experts" tell you, cause the "experts" are the bums who brought you this problem. Our veterinarians and their behaviorists largely do EXACTLY the same as your "trainer" did, cause the "non force" trainers out there generally aren’t any better than the choke and shock and crate crowd. > Do I need to put him down?

You mean kill him. Nope. He’ll straighten out in a few days using my techniques. I’ve got the fastest, gentlest, most effective methods in the world. Your FREE copy of my FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com will teach you everything you need to know to bring your dog to any level of training you desire. > TIA,

Just ask me if you need any help with the method. It’s all FREE, despite what ed williams of pet loss dot CON tries to tell you. Our dog lovers HATE Jerry cause Jerry has EXPOSED and DISCREDITED them. j;~) > Norvin

Get your sister to study my manual Norvin. I know we’ll make him nice and safe FAST. Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what I’ve always done without thinking of it as "training". New stuff, I’ve used. His anchoring technique erased the last of Mac’s fireworks trauma." Ben writes:

Hi, Jerry. I’m not sure that I’m a 100% convert, or that I agree with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this manual … BUT … we had "come" down pat in a few reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber ball at my feet on command. He’s still not perfect (just a pup, after all, and he’s stubborn enough to want to push and test me a little bit more). For what it’s worth, I can see (as no doubt you have) how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even if that was the only method that would work, I’d live with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that. (Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively, tho’). Best, ben

> I haven’t quite finished reading the FREE Wits’ End > Dog Training Method manual, but it already worked > miracles with our three dogs > The barking at the door has diminished so much that, > well, frankly, we’re stunned. > Anyway, your approach is amazing. > Melisand

Re: Barking Deterrants Needed… Hi. Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have spoken with him briefly once by email. I have no stake or interest in the success of  his business.  I simply want to thank him publicly for one of his tips, with regards to separation anxiety. I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed animal and then say good bye to my own dog, but I am usually a very open minded person, so I tried it. Well, lo and behold- the damn trick worked! I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes him is not understanding his logic. Thank you Jerry! Kitty Will Too) Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior View: Complete Thread (271 articles) | Original Format After using Jerry’s training manual, I became curious about the Doggy Do Right (DDR) machine, and a few weeks ago I received one. I thought the group might be interested in some things I’ve noticed since using it.  (This is a bit of an understatement as I certainly expect a flurry of responses… most of them will probably be nasty. But we’ll see.) Anyway, at first I would leave it on only when I left the house, but one day I forgot and left it on all night. My dogs used to wake me up between 8 and 8:30 a.m.  The morning after I left it on all night, they slept until 9:30 a.m.  At first I wondered why they had slept in so late, and then I noticed that the DDR was on. (And no, I’m not an early riser.)  :-) Now they consistently sleep until 9:30 or 10:00 a.m., unless I wake them up earlier.  One night the power went out, and the DDR was switched off.  They woke me around 8:30 that day. The second thing was something my husband noticed.  If the light on the DDR is flashing, it is in "rest" mode…when it’s solid, it is playing the program.  He came home, the dogs were doing their usual growl and "bitey face" rowdiness… when the machine’s light became solid (program on), they laid down in the same room with the machine. Pepper even laid on her side and started taking a little nap. Often, I will see the dogs in the room with the DDR when the program is playing, usually around their nap time. That is, they will nap in the same room as the machine and not in other areas of the house… even though their "preferred" sleeping spot at other times seems to be my bed. The last two things I’ve noticed have been with my 7 yr old Dalmatian, Beau.  He is normally terrified of thunderstorms, so much that he will try to crawl into my lap, or he will shake and shed hair everywhere. (Shedding hair is a symptom of stress I suppose… he does the same thing at the vet’s.)  On Sunday, we had a really severe thunderstorm, with hail, etc.  When the storm began, I turned the machine to play mode.  He laid on the … read more »

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